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Re: [Shop-talk] power meters, TED

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] power meters, TED
From: Mike Rambour <mikey@b2systems.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:48:37 -0700
  See, that is that why this list exists! I was thinking figuring out 
what the TV/Computer/Fridge/etc costs with the kill-a-watt but I was not 
thinking big like hardwired items, like the kitchen oven and other 240v 
items.  The TED would work for those and I did not think of them.

     mike

On 06/17/2010 12:13 PM, Wayne wrote:
> On 6/17/2010 2:16 PM, Mike Rambour wrote:
>> I was not going to say anything but since someone else has, I will too.
>>   I don't understand the need for this thing, it will NOT tell you what
>> is wasting energy, only that energy is being used. The Kill-A-Watt thing
>> that you plug into individual plugs and can check actual appliance use
>
> I have a kill-a-watt and it's good for checking individual 120V 
> items.  You do need to leave it plugged in for like a week to get a 
> good average of usage.  ie:  your fridge cycling off & on in response 
> to different weekday / weekend usage as well as its defrost cycle.  
> Same applies to your TV, etc.  I read some dipshit's review praising 
> how he measured his TV for 5 minutes and thus "knew exactly how much 
> it cost per month"
>
> My computers cost ~$5/each/month if left on constantly.  I put them in 
> stand by now.  The fridge runs about $3/month.  What I've figured out 
> is it's really the big stuff (HVAC, water heater, well and septic 
> pumps) that are using the most.  But they're hard wired 240V.  The TED 
> has some inductive pickup, so I figure you can put it across the mains 
> and measure the whole house;  or hook it to an individual circuit 
> (like the water heater.)  And for that I'd like to have one.
>
> -Wayne
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