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Yep, 18" is spot on per the beam and joist spacing, but the pre-cast =
footer only comes in 22".=20
Getting the concrete to the location will be difficult. The house is up =
a 100' inclined driveway that won't support a full sized truck, and the =
then another 100' around back to the site. Even a pumper would need a =
lot of hose. Are there smaller/lighter site-mix trucks now? I suppose =
they could pump it to the top of the driveway and wheelbarrow it around =
back...
> On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:15 PM, PJ McGarvey <pj_mcgarvey@hotmail.com> =
wrote:
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> I doubt you'll need more than 18" diameter footings for a deck.=20
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> In any case, I would pay a bit more for concrete delivery. I did this =
in November for a 16'x16' screened porch I'm almost finished with. For =
that diameter and depth, that's alot of concrete to mix correctly. In an =
hour you can have it delivered, poured, and save alot of hassle.=20
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> From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Pat =
Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:14 PM
> To: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
> Cc: Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Footings and piers for decks
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> 24=E2=80=9D diameter hole is pretty large. I had 24=E2=80=9D piers =
drilled by a company. They brought a large drill truck. I had 3 piers =
drilled 25=E2=80=99 deep, including bell bottoms. Cost was $800. Only =
reason I brought this up is it might not be that much over the cost of =
the skid steer to have someone else drill them.=20
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> Peace,
> Pat
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> Pat Horne=20
> We support Habitat for Humanity
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> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Jim Franklin via Shop-talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFHaving decided it's better to build a nice ornate deck out of =
PT than a small simple deck of of fancy materials, I'm looking at the =
foundation. Frost line here is 48" and I need 18" footings. I have found =
3 options and I'm wondering if I missed anything:
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> 1. Traditional concrete with forms and sonotubes
> 2. Pre-cast footings (22", 100 lbs) and stackable piers (EZ-Tube)
> 3. Helical piles=20
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> I haven't heard back from the town on that last one and they're the =
priciest at $275 per. The pre-cast are $150 per. Concrete will require =
hauling about 45,000 bags into the backyard.=20
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> I'm leaning towards #2 . I don't own any yard equipment but I can rent =
a skid steer with auger, though not a 24" auger I don't think.
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> thanks,
> jim
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Yep, =
18" is spot on per the beam and joist spacing, but the pre-cast footer =
only comes in 22". <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Getting the concrete to the location will be difficult. The =
house is up a 100' inclined driveway that won't support a full sized =
truck, and the then another 100' around back to the site. Even a pumper =
would need a lot of hose. Are there smaller/lighter site-mix trucks now? =
I suppose they could pump it to the top of the driveway and wheelbarrow =
it around back...<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:15 PM, =
PJ McGarvey <<a href=3D"mailto:pj_mcgarvey@hotmail.com"; =
class=3D"">pj_mcgarvey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">I doubt you'll need more than 18" diameter =
footings for a deck. </div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
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text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">In any case, I would pay a bit more for =
concrete delivery. I did this in November for a 16'x16' screened porch =
I'm almost finished with. For that diameter and depth, that's alot of =
concrete to mix correctly. In an hour you can have it delivered, poured, =
and save alot of hassle. </div><div id=3D"appendonsend" =
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href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Shop-talk <<a =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Shop-talk] Footings =
and piers for decks</font><div class=3D""> </div></div><div =
class=3D"BodyFragment" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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none;"><font size=3D"2" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"PlainText">24=E2=80=9D diameter hole is pretty =
large. I had 24=E2=80=9D piers drilled by a company. They brought a =
large drill truck. I had 3 piers drilled 25=E2=80=99 deep, including =
bell bottoms. Cost was $800. Only reason I brought this up is it might =
not be that much over the cost of the skid steer to have someone else =
drill them.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Peace,<br class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Pat Horne<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br=
class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humanity<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Jim Franklin =
via Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br class=3D"">><span=
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFHaving decided it's better to build a nice ornate =
deck out of PT than a small simple deck of of fancy materials, I'm =
looking at the foundation. Frost line here is 48" and I need 18" =
footings. I have found 3 options and I'm wondering if I missed =
anything:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">1. Traditional concrete with =
forms and sonotubes<br class=3D"">2. Pre-cast footings (22", 100 =
lbs) and stackable piers (EZ-Tube)<br class=3D"">3. Helical =
piles<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">I haven't heard back from the town on that last one and =
they're the priciest at $275 per. The pre-cast are $150 per. Concrete =
will require hauling about 45,000 bags into the backyard.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I'm leaning towards #2 . I don't own any yard equipment but I =
can rent a skid steer with auger, though not a 24" auger I don't =
think.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">thanks,<br class=3D"">jim<br =
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