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From: nick brearley <nick@landform.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 10:56:56 +0100
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Surprised nobody's responded to Phil's very valid concerns.

I realise that this may not be helpful to Jim who's having to study the 
weather radar at hourly intervals but I did a net search and came up 
with this among other items:

https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-gas/

Short answer, no without modification. As a minimum it must be worth a 
phonecall to http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html. Although 
bearing in mind these are wholesale importers they may not be the 
ultimate authority. And not available until Monday.

Good luck with the storm.

Nick Brearley


On 21/08/2021 20:19, Phil Ethier wrote:
> No. LP gas and household natural gas are different. You need to rejet 
> products to change over.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths 
>> of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without 
>> power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following 
>> Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator 
>> (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE
>>  
>> <https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>)
>>  
>> which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it 
>> periodically to be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and 
>> comes with a standard regulator.  A little Googling shows the 
>> following specs for the regulator:
>>
>>   * Low Pressure Regulator
>>   * Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
>>   * Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O= (11"W.C.)
>>   * Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)
>>
>>
>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. 
>>   I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, 
>> just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect 
>> the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend 
>> on the portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an 
>> example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>>
>>   * Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 â??W.C.
>>   * Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 â??W.C.
>>   * Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
>>   * Max Working Pressure:     150psi
>>   * Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
>>   * Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
>>   * Manifold Pressure:             3.9 â??W.C. (For Max Input)
>>
>>
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator 
>> directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, 
>> I tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and 
>> didnâ??t put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to research 
>> this before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it 
>> until now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>>
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    <p>Surprised nobody's responded to Phil's very valid concerns. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I realise that this may not be helpful to Jim who's having to
      study the weather radar at hourly intervals but I did a net search
      and came up with this among other items:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-gas/";
        
moz-do-not-send="true">https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-gas/</a></p>
    <p>Short answer, no without modification. As a minimum it must be
      worth a phonecall to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html";
        
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html</a>.
      Although bearing in mind these are wholesale importers they may
      not be the ultimate authority. And not available until Monday.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Good luck with the storm.</p>
    <p>Nick Brearley</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/08/2021 20:19, Phil Ethier wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:4DCE368C-5DC1-4BDE-B9AB-912C429BF950@gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      No. LP gas and household natural gas are different. You need to
      rejet products to change over. <br>
      <br>
      <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jim Stone <a
            class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
            href="mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;1789alpine@gmail.com&gt;</a>
          wrote:<br>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">
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          I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected
          paths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10
          days without power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4
          days following Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP
          Generator (<a
href="https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE";
            class="" 
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>)
          which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it
          periodically to be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP
          tanks and comes with a standard regulator.  A little Googling
          shows the following specs for the regulator:
          <div class=""><br class="">
          </div>
          <div class="">
            <ul class="MailOutline">
              <li class="">Low Pressure Regulator</li>
              <li class="">Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG</li>
              <li class="">Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=
                (11"W.C.)</li>
              <li class="">Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)</li>
            </ul>
            <div class=""><br class="">
            </div>
          </div>
          <div class="">We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500
            gallon in-ground tank.   I had an outside gas line stubbed
            out when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed
            it and I would like to be able to connect the generator
            directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on
            the portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as
            an example, here are the specs for the water heater:</div>
          <div class=""><br class="">
          </div>
          <div class="">
            <ul class="MailOutline">
              <li class="">Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 â??W.C.</li>
              <li class="">Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 â??W.C.</li>
              <li class="">Recovery Rating:               
206/Gallons/HR</li>
              <li class="">Max Working Pressure:     150psi</li>
              <li class="">Max Output:                       180,000
                BTU/HR</li>
              <li class="">Max Input:                         
 11,000
                BTU/HR</li>
              <li class="">Manifold Pressure:             3.9 â??W.C. (For
                Max Input)</li>
            </ul>
            <div class=""><br class="">
            </div>
            <div class="">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to
              hook the generator directly to the house supply without
              the regulator?  For the record, I tried it once with the
              regulator attached and it barely ran and didnâ??t put out
              any appreciable power.  I always meant to research this
              before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around
              to it until now.</div>
            <div class=""><br class="">
            </div>
            <div class="">Thanks,</div>
            <div class="">Jim</div>
            <div class=""><br class="">
            </div>
          </div>
          <div class=""><br class="">
          </div>
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