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Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply

To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 07:38:18 -0400
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All is good, guys.  The latest forecast shows the storm moving east and =
it looks like the eye is going to miss Long Island.  There will =
certainly be lots of rain and wind and I still expect to lose power at =
some point, so this will all be of use very soon.  Right now it is just =
wet and windy, but nothing like we are expecting in a few hours.  More =
later.
Jim

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@comcast.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> I'm surprised to see responses assuming natural gas is the house =
supply.
>=20
> In the original post, Jim specifically stated that he has LPG/Propane
> house heating with a large tank for supply. Someone, somewhere along =
the
> line missed that fact and that piece of conversation went off the =
rails.
>=20
> Donald.
> --
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com =
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the =
projected paths of
>> Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without
>> power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following
>> Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator
>>=20
> =
<https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE =
<https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>>
>> which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it
>> periodically to be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and
>> comes with a standard regulator.  A little Googling shows the
>> following specs for the regulator:
>>=20
>>    Low Pressure Regulator
>>    Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
>>    Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
>>    Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)
>>=20
>>=20
>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.
>> I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled,
>> just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect
>> the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend
>> on the portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an
>> example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>>=20
>>    Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>    Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>    Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
>>    Max Working Pressure:     150psi
>>    Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
>>    Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
>>    Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)
>>=20
>>=20
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator
>> directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, =
I
>> tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and =
didn=E2=80=99t
>> put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to research this =
before
>> I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>=20
> On 2021-08-22 5:56 a.m., nick brearley wrote:
>> Surprised nobody's responded to Phil's very valid concerns.
>>=20
>> I realise that this may not be helpful to Jim who's having to study =
the
>> weather radar at hourly intervals but I did a net search and came up
>> with this among other items:
>>=20
>> https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-gas/
>>=20
>> Short answer, no without modification. As a minimum it must be worth =
a
>> phonecall to http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html. =
Although
>> bearing in mind these are wholesale importers they may not be the
>> ultimate authority. And not available until Monday.
>>=20
>> Good luck with the storm.
>>=20
>> Nick Brearley
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 21/08/2021 20:19, Phil Ethier wrote:
>>> No. LP gas and household natural gas are different. You need to =
rejet
>>> products to change over.=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BF I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the =
projected paths
>>>> of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days =
without
>>>> power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following
>>>> Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator
>>>> =
(https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE
>>>> =
<https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE =
<https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>>)
>>>> which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it
>>>> periodically to be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and
>>>> comes with a standard regulator.  A little Googling shows the
>>>> following specs for the regulator:
>>>>=20
>>>>  * Low Pressure Regulator
>>>>  * Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
>>>>  * Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
>>>>  * Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground =
tank.
>>>>   I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was =
remodeled,
>>>> just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to =
connect
>>>> the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to =
depend
>>>> on the portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an
>>>> example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>>>>=20
>>>>  * Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>>>  * Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>>>  * Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
>>>>  * Max Working Pressure:     150psi
>>>>  * Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
>>>>  * Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
>>>>  * Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator
>>>> directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the =
record,
>>>> I tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and
>>>> didn=E2=80=99t put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to =
research
>>>> this before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to =
it
>>>> until now.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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>>>>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">All =
is good, guys. &nbsp;The latest forecast shows the storm moving east and =
it looks like the eye is going to miss Long Island. &nbsp;There will =
certainly be lots of rain and wind and I still expect to lose power at =
some point, so this will all be of use very soon. &nbsp;Right now it is =
just wet and windy, but nothing like we are expecting in a few hours. =
&nbsp;More later.<div class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug =
22, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Donald H Locker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dhlocker@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">dhlocker@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">I'm surprised to see responses assuming natural gas is the =
house supply.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">In the =
original post, Jim specifically stated that he has LPG/Propane</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">house heating with a large tank =
for supply. Someone, somewhere along the</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">line missed that fact and that piece of conversation went off =
the rails.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Donald.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">--</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">On =
Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the =
projected paths of<br class=3D"">Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We are being =
told to plan for 7-10 days without<br class=3D"">power, although FWIW we =
were only powerless for 4 days following<br class=3D"">Sandy. =
&nbsp;Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&lt;</span><a =
href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-=
generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jm=
Ozjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propa=
ne-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO=
0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt;</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">which, =
of course, I have never needed, although I do run it<br =
class=3D"">periodically to be safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of =
LP tanks and<br class=3D"">comes with a standard regulator. &nbsp;A =
little Googling shows the<br class=3D"">following specs for the =
regulator:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Low Pressure =
Regulator<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Inlet Pressure: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;25-250PSIG<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Outlet Pressure: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;280mmH2O=
=3D (11"W.C.)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Flow Capacity(MAX): =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon =
in-ground tank.<br class=3D"">I had an outside gas line stubbed out when =
the house was remodeled,<br class=3D"">just in case I ever needed it and =
I would like to be able to connect<br class=3D"">the generator directly =
to the house supply and avoid having to depend<br class=3D"">on the =
portable tanks. &nbsp;The house supply is regulated and, as an<br =
class=3D"">example, here are the specs for the water heater:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Max Inlet Gas Pressure: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Min =
Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Recovery Rating: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;206/Gallons/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Max Working =
Pressure: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;150psi<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Max Output: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;180,000 =
BTU/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Max Input: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;11,000 BTU/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Manifold Pressure: =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3.=
9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the =
generator<br class=3D"">directly to the house supply without the =
regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I<br class=3D"">tried it once with the =
regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t<br class=3D"">put =
out any appreciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this =
before<br class=3D"">I needed it, but like many of us, never got around =
to it until now.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Jim<br=
 class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
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class=3D"">On 2021-08-22 5:56 a.m., nick brearley wrote:</span><br =
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14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
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class=3D"">Surprised nobody's responded to Phil's very valid =
concerns.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I realise that this may not be =
helpful to Jim who's having to study the<br class=3D"">weather radar at =
hourly intervals but I did a net search and came up<br class=3D"">with =
this among other items:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natural-g=
as/" =
class=3D"">https://generatorgeek.com/can-a-propane-generator-run-on-natura=
l-gas/</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Short answer, no without =
modification. As a minimum it must be worth a<br class=3D"">phonecall to =
http://www.sportsmangenerators.com/contact.html. Although<br =
class=3D"">bearing in mind these are wholesale importers they may not be =
the<br class=3D"">ultimate authority. And not available until Monday.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Good luck with the storm.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Nick Brearley<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =
21/08/2021 20:19, Phil Ethier wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">No. LP gas and household natural gas are =
different. You need to rejet<br class=3D"">products to change =
over.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug =
21, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jim Stone &lt;1789alpine@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF I am on Eastern Long Island, =
directly in one of the projected paths<br class=3D"">of Hurricane Henri. =
&nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without<br class=3D"">power,=
 although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following<br =
class=3D"">Sandy. &nbsp;Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP =
Generator<br =
class=3D"">(https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-prop=
ane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneV=
O0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE<br class=3D"">&lt;<a=
 =
href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-=
generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jm=
Ozjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" =
class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propa=
ne-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO=
0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>&gt;)<br =
class=3D"">which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run =
it<br class=3D"">periodically to be safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run =
off of LP tanks and<br class=3D"">comes with a standard regulator. =
&nbsp;A little Googling shows the<br class=3D"">following specs for the =
regulator:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Low Pressure =
Regulator<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Inlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Outlet =
Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D =
(11"W.C.)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; =
&nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We use =
Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>I =
had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled,<br =
class=3D"">just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to =
connect<br class=3D"">the generator directly to the house supply and =
avoid having to depend<br class=3D"">on the portable tanks. &nbsp;The =
house supply is regulated and, as an<br class=3D"">example, here are the =
specs for the water heater:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Max =
Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* =
Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;* Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; 206/Gallons/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Max Working Pressure: =
&nbsp; &nbsp; 150psi<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 =
BTU/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 =
BTU/HR<br class=3D"">&nbsp;* Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to =
hook the generator<br class=3D"">directly to the house supply without =
the regulator? &nbsp;For the record,<br class=3D"">I tried it once with =
the regulator attached and it barely ran and<br class=3D"">didn=E2=80=99t =
put out any appreciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research<br =
class=3D"">this before I needed it, but like many of us, never got =
around to it<br class=3D"">until now.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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