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Re: [Shop-talk] Finishing a tricky ceiling

To: Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Finishing a tricky ceiling
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 16:07:52 -0400
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I used panels like that to =E2=80=98waterproof=E2=80=99 an area under =
our deck to store my lawnmower and other garden tools.  In our case, the =
deck is just composite boards with about 1/8=E2=80=9D spacing, so the =
rain does fall straight through.  I used shims to pitch the area =
slightly to one end and then installed a piece of gutter with a drain to =
an out of the way area.  It has worked fine, but I wouldn=E2=80=99t want =
to have to remove it periodically to check the condition of the upper =
surface. Something like this would be more work to install, but I have =
seen brands of this type of system that have easily removable panels.  =
https://raintightdecks.com/under-deck-ceiling/

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 3:09 PM, Paul Parkanzky <parkanzky@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> How about polycarbonate panels like they use for greenhouse roofs? =
It's obviously completely waterproof. You can get clear if you don't =
mind seeing whatever accumulates on top of it or something opaque if you =
want it to look nice and don't mind pulling a panel down to look at =
what's going on up there.
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> -Paul
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> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 3:06 PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com =
> Got a hankering for some opinions...
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> We have a small room under our basement.  About 4' by 12', it is
> directly underneath our front porch.  We refer to it as the "bomb
> shelter" as it is all cinderblock and earth-sheltered on one side,and
> the other three sides are adjacent to basement rooms or crawlspace.
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> As it is under the porch, there is occasional water seepage around the
> perimeter - mostly when we wash the porch (it is walled on three sides
> and has a roof over it.  The ceiling is the porch floor, installed by
> laying a metal pan down and pouring the porch slab on top (much like
> floors in commercial buildings.  The main problem is that the pan was
> not galvanized, and so it rains a constant shower of little rusty
> metal particles and chunks into the room.
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> I'd like to put a ceiling in there to catch all of that before it gets
> all over the stuff that I have stored on the shelves.  It must be
> removable so I can check the pan for imminent failure, and must also
> be moisture-resistant.  I have some idea of what I might do, but the
> collective wisdom can often be much sharper than me alone.   Any
> ideas?  Once I solve the ceiling, I'm going to dry-lok the walls and
> finish it a little nicer so I can store shop supplies down there.
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> Picture of the ceiling:
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
used panels like that to =E2=80=98waterproof=E2=80=99 an area under our =
deck to store my lawnmower and other garden tools. &nbsp;In our case, =
the deck is just composite boards with about 1/8=E2=80=9D spacing, so =
the rain does fall straight through. &nbsp;I used shims to pitch the =
area slightly to one end and then installed a piece of gutter with a =
drain to an out of the way area. &nbsp;It has worked fine, but I =
wouldn=E2=80=99t want to have to remove it periodically to check the =
condition of the upper surface. Something like this would be more work =
to install, but I have seen brands of this type of system that have =
easily removable panels. &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://raintightdecks.com/under-deck-ceiling/"; =
class=3D"">https://raintightdecks.com/under-deck-ceiling/</a><br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 3, 2022, at 3:09 PM, Paul Parkanzky &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:parkanzky@gmail.com"; class=3D"">parkanzky@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">How about =
polycarbonate panels like they use for greenhouse roofs? It's obviously =
completely waterproof. You can get clear if you don't mind seeing =
whatever accumulates on top of it or something opaque if you want it to =
look nice and don't mind pulling a panel down to look at what's going on =
up there.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">-Paul</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 3:06 PM Jeff =
Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Got a hankering for some =
opinions...<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
We have a small room under our basement.&nbsp; About 4' by 12', it is<br =
class=3D"">
directly underneath our front porch.&nbsp; We refer to it as the =
"bomb<br class=3D"">
shelter" as it is all cinderblock and earth-sheltered on one side,and<br =
class=3D"">
the other three sides are adjacent to basement rooms or crawlspace.<br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
As it is under the porch, there is occasional water seepage around =
the<br class=3D"">
perimeter - mostly when we wash the porch (it is walled on three =
sides<br class=3D"">
and has a roof over it.&nbsp; The ceiling is the porch floor, installed =
by<br class=3D"">
laying a metal pan down and pouring the porch slab on top (much like<br =
class=3D"">
floors in commercial buildings.&nbsp; The main problem is that the pan =
was<br class=3D"">
not galvanized, and so it rains a constant shower of little rusty<br =
class=3D"">
metal particles and chunks into the room.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I'd like to put a ceiling in there to catch all of that before it =
gets<br class=3D"">
all over the stuff that I have stored on the shelves.&nbsp; It must =
be<br class=3D"">
removable so I can check the pan for imminent failure, and must also<br =
class=3D"">
be moisture-resistant.&nbsp; I have some idea of what I might do, but =
the<br class=3D"">
collective wisdom can often be much sharper than me alone.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;Any<br class=3D"">
ideas?&nbsp; Once I solve the ceiling, I'm going to dry-lok the walls =
and<br class=3D"">
finish it a little nicer so I can store shop supplies down there.<br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Picture of the ceiling:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</blockquote></div></div>
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