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Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)

To: "Jeff Zurschmeide" <zurschmeidej@interactivenw.com>, <spridgets@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
From: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:07:15 -0800
Reply-to: "Mike Gigante" <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
Sender: owner-spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
Hmm, I'll definitely go looking for that welded 4.5 today...

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Zurschmeide <zurschmeidej@interactivenw.com>
To: 'Mike Gigante' <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>; 'spridgets@Autox.Team.Net'
<spridgets@Autox.Team.Net>
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)


>Once you go welded, I don't think you'll want to go back.
>I use a welded 4.5, and when you go to lay down power,
>it lays down and that's that. Your descriptions of technique
>sound very much like what I do (as I said) with my welded
>diff.
>
>JZ
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mike Gigante [SMTP:mikeg@vicnet.net.au]
>>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 10:43 PM
>>To: spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
>>Subject: Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>>
>>I should have mentioned that all of this pertains to driving with
>>an open diff.
>>
>>If you use a locker or an LSD, these techniques may or may not be
>>useful. I don't know.
>>
>>One day I'll actually buy an LSD and I'll find out for myself.....
Somewhere
>>in the shed I have a welded 4.5 diff, I might try that at a motorkhana
this
>>weekend if I can find it.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mike Gigante <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
>>To: spridgets@autox.team.net <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: Autox Sprite Handling Questions (actually driving technique)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>OK, here goes. I think I have rationalised what I do. I just do it on the
>>>track,
>>>I don't really think about it!!!!
>>>
>>>In normal hard driving (and in many "how to race" books), you approach
>>>a corner at speed; hit the brakes; turn into corner still braking; apply
>>>power
>>>at the apex; accelerate out of corner.
>>>
>>>If you do this effectively, the weight transfer ensures that the inside
>>rear
>>>is
>>>well and truly unladen at the apex, and applying power will result in
>>>wheelspin (948's aside :-). Once you have the wheelspin you have to back
>>>off a little or straighten up. Either way, you've lost valuable corner
exit
>>>speed
>>>and your time will be *slow*!
>>>
>>>This is what I have done to avoid this. YMMV of course.
>>>
>>>I approach the corner, brake harder than anyone else ( :-), off the
brakes
>>>while still in a straight line and get back on the power at turn-in.
>>>Actually
>>>the process could be:  off brakes, turn-in, allow the rear end to get a
>>>little
>>>loose, apply power *OR* off brakes, apply power and turn-in at the same
>>>time *OR* off brakes, apply power, turn-in.
>>>
>>>I know it sounds stupid, but I
>>>am not really sure how it ended up. I consciously tried all of these once
>>>upon
>>>a time and now I just do it. I'd actually have to think about it next
time
>>>I'm
>>>on the track (Nov 7/8, Eastern Creek 6 hour relay race) to tell you which
I
>>>actually use!!!
>>>
>>>Why do this? Well the weight transfer under acceleration is to the rear
>>>wheels
>>>and this means you won't lift the inside rear. Furthermore, applying full
>>>power
>>>like this (and a little opposite lock) gets the car into a proper 4 wheel
>>>drift,
>>>even in relatively low speed tighter turns.
>>>
>>>On really tight stuff, you'll definitely need to flick the back out by
>>>turning in off
>>>the throttle and get back on the throttle again in time to keep it from
>>>spinning.
>>>
>>>As a result of all this, your corner exit speed will be high, you'll be
on
>>>the throttle
>>>all the way through the bend and you'll have more fun than everyone else
>>>too!
>>>
>>>I hope this is a good enough explanation. If not, you'll just have to be
>>>passenger in my car and observe it for yourself!!!!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM <CONAN@RALVM8.VNET.IBM.COM>
>>>To: mikeg@vicnet.net.au <mikeg@vicnet.net.au>
>>>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 2:52 PM
>>>Subject: Autox Sprite Handling Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ref:  Your note of Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:29:09 -0800
>>>>
>>>>>>Since I'll never be competing with you, I'm prepared to share this
info!
>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>  Since I'M half a world away too; you wanna copy me on what you send
him?
>>>>  :-) Ed in NC ;-)   (Just for my own info. I havn't run autocross
>>>regularly
>>>>                       in years.)
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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