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Re: My Midget runs, sort of

To: "Gerard Chateauvieux" <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>, "Allen Hefner" <Ajhsys@aol.com>, <wmgilroy@lucent.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: My Midget runs, sort of
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:29:22 -0400
Cc: "Home" <macy2@mail.fastpointcom.com>
I don't think so, But I will look tonight when I get home. I think the 2 
ATDC is for CA cars only (as I recall)

Larry

At this exact moment in time 8/3/00 14:13, pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com 
made the profound statement:

>Larry,
>
>You're looking at UK Spec engine page. U.S. 1977 and later is 2 degrees ATDC.
>
>Gerard
>
>At 10:51 AM -0400 8/3/00, Larry Macy wrote:
>>Bill - Gotta go with Allen here. My Leyland Factory Manual for the 78
>>says 10 BTDC.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>At this exact moment in time 8/3/00 10:34, Ajhsys@aol.com made the
>>profound statement:
>>
>>>In a message dated 8/2/00 8:17:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>wmgilroy@lucent.com writes:
>>>
>>><< I got my 77 Midget running today but I am having some problems as
>>> usual. The car starts when hot, but is very hard to start when
>>> cold.  A bit of gas in the carb helps greatly.  >>
>>>
>>>Sounds like the choke isn't closing.  You might want to consider a manual
>>>choke conversion.  They are a lot more reliable.
>>>
>>><<  I cannot get
>>> the car to idle below 1200 RPM.  When at an idle the RPM hunts
>>> around by maybe 200 RPM.  The timing also fluctuates with the
>>> RPM. >>
>>>
>>>The timing is fluctuating because the vacuum advance is advancing as the
>>>RPMs
>>>go up.  (Or is that RsPM?  Grammar nazis, please help.)
>>>
>>><<  Oil pressure is 45 PSI while hot at an idle and 65 PSI
>>> when cold at an idle.  >>
>>>
>>>That's real good.  After my '77 heats up completely the pressure drops down
>>>to less than 30 at a slow idle, and about 50 at 3500 RPM.
>>>
>>><<  I have not pulled the plugs yet to
>>> see what they look like.  The point gap is set to .015 and
>>> the timing is set to 2 degrees ATDC as per the shop manual.  >>
>>>
>>>Hmmmm.  My shop manual (Haynes, I think I used!) says 10 deg BTDC.  I have
>>>it
>>>set at about 8 deg BTDC.  Are you sure about that timing setting?  Maybe the
>>>earlier dizzy would make the setting different, but that wouldn't be in the
>>>manual.  I will check my owners manual tomorrow when I pick up my car.  (Not
>>>"pick up" but when I get my car.  Gimme a break!)  The 2 deg ATDC setting
>>>might be for static timing the dizzy.  If you need it, I'll bring my timing
>>>light on Saturday and we can check it.  Let me know.
>>>
>>><< I am running an earlier mechanical dizzy if that matters.  Not
>>> sure about all the vacuum lines (no wise comments).  The
>>> points, wire, and dizzy cap have less than 300 miles on them.
>>> Fuel pump works great and I put in 2 filters, one before the
>>> pump and one at the carb.  The manufacturer of the pump recommends
>>> one before the pump.  It will be a PITA to change on the road
>>> side when it clogs.  >>
>>>
>>>If you think it is a vacuum leak, just buy a roll of vacuum hose and replace
>>>each one on the car.  My car was desmogged so I only have the one vacuum
>>>line
>>>to the dizzy advance.  You probably have more.  Replace them one at a time
>>>so
>>>you don't get confused.  I did that on my Mitsubishi.  (It made no
>>>difference
>>>at all.  Then I replaced the O2 sensor and fixed the problem.)
>>>
>>>I have one filter after my fuel pump.  The mechanical fuel pumps on the 1500
>>>Midgets are much more reliable than the electrical ones on earlier cars.
>>>Plus, you don't have to put up with all that clicking noise.
>>>
>>>Keep on pluggin' Bill.  I'll see you Saturday!
>>>
>>>Allen Hefner
>>>SCCA Philly Region Rally Steward
>>>'77 Midget
>>>'92 Mitsubishi Expo LRV Sport
>>
>>
>>Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>>macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>>System Administrator/Manager
>>Neuropsychiatry Section
>>Department of Psychiatry
>>University of Pennsylvania
>>3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
>>Philadelphia, PA 19104
>>
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macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
System Administrator/Manager
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
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