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RE: Midgets and Datsun 210 Transmissions

To: "Larry Macy" <macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Midgets and Datsun 210 Transmissions
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:41:27 -0800charset="iso-8859-1"
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Hi Larry
Yes, we do have a few kicking around here at the moment, plus some 5 speeds.
In fact we spent most of the weekend building racks for them all.
Regards
John J Black
Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
http://www.waterloo-dtr.com

-----Original Message-----
From owner-spridgets at autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Larry Macy
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:34 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: Midgets and Datsun 210 Transmissions


Hey John. I heard a rumor that you might just have some Spitfire OD
trannies. Could this be true??

Larry

At this exact moment in time 10/26/00 4:27 PM, "John J. Black"
<helejohn@neteze.com> made the profound statement:

> Hi Guys
> At the risk of sounding like a commercial~!
> We, and ONLY we are the vendors for the product range of Frontline
Spridget
> in the UK, you may be able to purchase the same products from another
> source, but at some point it will go to them via Waterloo!
>
> As to the 5 speeds, we use the Sierra 5 speed box, apart from the input
> shaft, it is basically the same item as the Merkur BUT!!!! The gearbox
case
> is interchangeable, the gears are not, unless you were to change the whole
> gear set. so you could use the Merkur box but you would have to modify it,
> plus the gear ratios are different from the Sierra box and this may or may
> not matter to you as a driver.
>
> The Sierra in Europe is, or was a very popular car and a vast percentage
of
> them had manual transmissions. Where as here in the USA the Merkur is
pretty
> much regarded as a lemon and did not sell very well at all! Of those that
> they did sell the vast majority of them were Automatic transmission. So
you
> have a two fold problem, first find the Merkur then find one with a stick
> shift! Then set about shortening the input shaft which will mean a gearbox
> strip etc.
> BTW We use basically the same transmission for the MGA MGB Spridget's inc
> 1500 as well as the Spitfire and TR Triumphs. The ratios vary in these
> gearboxes and we get them from.................. Enough already!!!!
> I hope this helps to clarify matters and apologies to any Merkur
enthusiasts
> out there, no offence meant.
>
> Regards
> John J Black
> Waterloo Drivetrain Systems
> http://www.waterloo-dtr.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-spridgets@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-spridgets@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Chris Kotting
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 8:48 AM
> To: Dan Dwelley
> Cc: DLancer7676@cs.com; macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu;
> davidr@sunset.net; froggi@cdsnet.net; ryan_marro@hotmail.com;
> spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Midgets and Datsun 210 Transmissions
>
>
> I thought it was the Merkur transmission, too, but according to John
> Black from Waterloo Drivetrain Systems (who sells the Rivergate kit here
> in the US) the Ford Sierra transmission (that he Rivergate kit uses) is
> different from the Merkur transmission.  You'd have to contact him for
> the details, though.
>
> Chris K.
>
> Dan Dwelley wrote:
>>
>> It's the Merkur xr4ti 5 speed tranny.
>>
>> Dan Dwelley
>>
>> --- DLancer7676@cs.com wrote:
>>> In a message dated 10/25/2000 9:33:05 PM Eastern
>>> Daylight Time,
>>> macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu writes:
>>>
>>> << Uh Oh, Are you sure the Datsun tranny won't work
>>> with a 1500?? >>
>>>
>>> Larry:
>>>
>>> I dont think it will.  I have the 1500 in my Midget
>>> and am pretty sure the
>>> 210 wont fit it.  Someone in England has a 5 speed
>>> tranny conversion forthe
>>> 1500, I think, but it is pretty costly.
>>>
>>> --David C.
>>
>> =====
>> Dan Dwelley
>> 77 Midget
>> Alexandria, Va.
>>
>> __________________________________________________

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
System Administrator/Manager
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 1015 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

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