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Re: inner wheel bearing/hub fit

To: "Gerard Chateauvieux" <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: inner wheel bearing/hub fit
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:03:52 -0000
References: <v0313031db78b4fbe50e4@[209.24.234.112]> <v03130325b78b936a7aa7@[209.24.234.112]>
unfortunatly dimpling the hub is not a very good idea as it is a load
bearing item and the disturbing of a machined surface can be an introduction
of a surface irregularity that can become a crack.  also the tiny amount of
raised metal from dimpling becomes the load bearing surface and will
eventually either get worn away from the bearing not fitting corectly in
it's bore or it will get pounded back during use resulting in a loose fit
once again.   the loctite stud and bearing mount material is a reasonable
save (as it will support full circle) but the best repair is a new hub (be
it new or used).   do not go out and play speed racer with it untill you fit
a replacement that has not had a bearing spin in the bore(causing the loose
poor fit).

chuck.

----- Original Message -----
From Gerard Chateauvieux <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
To: Chris Kotting <ckotting@core.com>; Gerard Chateauvieux
<pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
Cc: Glen Byrns <grbyrns@ucdavis.edu>; <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: inner wheel bearing/hub fit


> Chris,
>
> Read my reply again, I wrote "in the hub" not the bearing itself... I
think
> one would go nuts trying to dimple the bearing itself...'-)
>
> Thanks for info on the adhesive route.
>
> -g
>
> At 3:00 PM -0400 7/30/01, Chris Kotting wrote:
> >One of the rare times I will disagree with Gerard (but only sorta).
> >Don't try to take up the slack with dimples.  The bearing races are
> >*hard* and they just aren't intended to be whacked hard enough to leave
> >a dimple.
> >
> >However the adhesive route *is * the way I'd do it.  (Like I said, I'm
> >only sorta disagreeing.)  Permatex (http://www.permatex.com) has 3
> >products that could be suitable, depending on how loose things are:
> >Part No.  Name                                Spec.
> >20297     Bearing Mount for Worn Parts        Fills gaps to .020" in
> >diameter.
> >68040     Bearing Mount for Relaxed Fits      (Not listed, but
> >presumably between the other two)
> >60940     Bearing Mount for Close Fits        Slip fit up to .005"
> >diameter.
> >
> >No financial interest, yadda, yadda...  Loctite makes similar products.
> >http://www.loctite.com
> >
> >Chris K.
> >
> >P.S.: "Relaxed Fits" seems like an oxymoron.  If you're having fits,
> >you're rarely relaxed.  Either that, or it's bearing mount for those
> >"loose cut" jeans, and in that case, I DON'T want to see the Technical
> >Data Sheet, thank you...
> >
> >Gerard Chateauvieux wrote:
> >>
> >> Glen,
> >>
> >> A probably better fix is to use a punch to create 3 equidistant dimples
in
> >> each hub race. You can also get an adhesive made for this purpose. I
think
> >> Loctite makes it. Seems I saw it in the Kragen's last week.
> >>
> >> Gerard
> >>
> >> At 10:40 AM -0700 7/30/01, Glen Byrns wrote:
> >> >After carefully examining the front left hub to discover the source of
some
> >> >slop, I find that the inner bearing is a loose fit into the hub.  Once
the
> >> >hub is off the car, a light shake will free the inner bearing, which
is
> >> >brand new.  The outer bearing shell has a small amount of play when
nested
> >> >into the hole fully.  Thinking the bearing might not be spec, I tried
the
> >> >old one as well and found the same thing.
> >> >
> >> >So it seems the machined hole in the hub for the inner bearing race is
> >> >slightly enlarged.  Is there any good reason not to wrap a piece of
.001
> >> >brass around the outer shell and tap it into place?
> >> >
> >> >If there is a really good reason not to do this, anyone got a front
hub to
> >> >spare?
> >> >
> >> >Note:All 'replies' from Justbrits will be filtered into oblivion.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Glen Byrns
> >> >'59 bugeye
> >> >'59 Morris Traveller (Winifred)
> >>
>
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