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Re: Wheel Wobble

To: "Peter C." <nosimport@mailbag.com>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Wheel Wobble
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 09:08:33 -0700
Organization: Morriservice
References: <139.10078b84.2a43112f@cs.com> <>
Hi Peter,

The amount of torque applied with the spacer in place that would increase the
strength of the spindle would far exceed the capabilities of the DIY tools and
abilities, judging from what I have read.  While I agree that there are some
folks who have come up with convincing arguments about using the spacer, and
increasing the load area and strength of the spindle, I fear that it's based
on incorrect data or the amount of increase is negligible.

>From my prior experience with spacers in place, I've found the frequency of
locking up the bearing, (spacer too short) with the high torque value on the
adjusting nut is about equal to the inability to get rid of bearing play,
(spacer too long).  In the latter case it involved disassembly, removal of a
bearing and removal of the spacer to get it set up correctly.  In the former,
just adjusting it in the conventional way worked fine, the spacer just went
along for the ride.

As for the "wobble" that started all this, I don't get a really good sense of
what it is.  Don't know if it's with new bearing, shot bearings, bent wheel,
wire or steel wheel, broken tire belt, wheel assembly out of balance
dynamically or what it is.  Haven't gotten much feedback on clarifying that
yet, but a good exchange on the virtues of the spacer has cropped up!.

Seems to me that the last time this thread went around, it generated about as
much controvery as this time!!  LOL

Paul A

"Peter C." wrote:

> Paul,
>          I have to respectfully disagree on this. It has been convincingly
> demonstrated to me by competent mechanics and engineers that the spacer
> effectively almost doubles the diameter and increases the strength of the
> spindle. I can't argue with your successes, but I couldn't recommend
> removing the spacer. I do not have an answer for the recent, it seems to
> me, spate of the wobblies, though.
>          Peter C
> --
> At 10:08 AM 6/20/2002, Paul A. Asgeirsson wrote:
> >I leave them out on both types of bearings.  There is no assurance that
> >the new bearings of any mfg of ball types are made to fit exactly right
> >with the spacers.  So to get a correct wheel bearing adjustment, leave
> >them out and adjust in the conventional manner instead of the 46 to 65
> >lb.ft. the manual says.
> >
> >All those who have lost a set of new wheel bearing in a week or less,
> >using spacers and the 46 to 65 lb. ft method, please raise your hand.
> >I'll bet you blamed it on the poor quality of the new bearings!!!  And
> >they aren't made in China, either!!
> >
> >Paul A
> >
> >DLancer7676@cs.com wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 6/20/02 12:21:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Leave out the spacers!!!
> > >
> > > Are we talking about roller bearings here?  I understand you leave out
> > > the spacers when retrofitting roller bearings but not if you are
> > > replacing stock ball bearings.  Correct?
> > >
> > > ==David C.

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