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Re: Sprite boot emblem

To: <type79@ix.netcom.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Sprite boot emblem
From: "MICHAEL CARPENTER" <MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:01:52 -0500
Hi Jay,

I just wish that winter to would go away.  Cabin fever . . .

I do wonder about the chrome Sprite arrows as lets face it, the good arrow 
does not match anything.

Mike C
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <type79@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Sprite boot emblem


> Mike,
>
> I misread your email about the boxes. What you describe is a period box.
>
> Regardless, believe what you wish. If you choose not to believe what is 
> published in period factory publications nor evidence of original 
> unrestored cars, continuing this discussion is pointless.
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
> home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: MICHAEL CARPENTER <MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com>
>>Sent: Feb 14, 2007 5:29 PM
>>To: type79@ix.netcom.com, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: Sprite boot emblem
>>
>>Hi Jay,
>>
>>I am curious as to what the BMC parts boxes looked like when Bugeyes were
>>new.  I have only seen the blue red and white striped boxes.
>>
>>I can understand your point of view.  However, I do not place so much 
>>value
>>on the printed word as it is often not as accurate as one would hope.
>>
>>I have not seen how you have disproved with total certainty that it did 
>>not
>>occur.  So, until you or anyone can prove to me that every Bugeye had a 
>>gold
>>Sprite arrow when it left the assembly line, I will go on believing that
>>some had chrome arrows.
>>
>>Do not bother . . . my theory can not be disproved without viewing every
>>Bugeye as it left when new or a definitive writing by a worker that was
>>there when they were new and being built.
>>
>>Mike C
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: <type79@ix.netcom.com>
>>To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:10 PM
>>Subject: Re: Sprite boot emblem
>>
>>
>>> Assuming for the moment that this is the emblem that came in that box, 
>>> the
>>> fact that this is a later box and not one produced when the cars were in
>>> production, does not give any support to any arguement that these cars
>>> were delivered with anything but gold emblems.
>>>
>>> The real test is to verify this in the period factory parts manuals.
>>>
>>> I have never seen an original unrestored Sprite Mk I with anything but a
>>> gold emblem. I don't believe the factory ever mounted a chrome emblem on 
>>> a
>>> Bugeye/Frogeye. Whether they were available as a period option by
>>> aftermarket suppliers or even the factory after production ceased is
>>> another discussion and one that never carried much interest for me. My
>>> interest in originality is how the cars left the factory and what 
>>> factory
>>> parts were made available and offered by the factory at the time of
>>> manufacture.
>>>
>>> We can also discuss Speedwell, Sprinzel, and other period tuning firms 
>>> but
>>> that is also a separate discussion and is not related to what was
>>> authentic to factory original cars.
>>>
>>> And I will close by saying that I'm not pushing originality on anyone, 
>>> but
>>> if we are going to make claims what was attached to the cars as they
>>> rolled down the production line, we need to be able to back up what we
>>> say.
>>>
>>> jay fishbein
>>> wallingford, ct
>>> home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: MICHAEL CARPENTER <MAIL4CARPENTERS@peoplepc.com>
>>>>Sent: Feb 14, 2007 4:53 PM
>>>>To: Frank Clarici <spritenut@comcast.net>
>>>>Cc: b-evans@earthlink.net, 'Spridgets' <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: Sprite boot emblem
>>>>
>>>>The NOS box is the good old BMC box that is red white and blue striped
>>>>etc.
>>>>The paper part number adhered to the top and side of box state that it 
>>>>is:
>>>>
>>>>14A 4859
>>>>WB QTY ONE




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