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Re: [Spridgets] Work bench surface

To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Work bench surface
From: Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:35:15 +0000
Cc: Spridgets list <spridgets@autox.team.net>, Mark Haynes <220caribou@gmail.com>
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Actually ... I have good luck using water soluble cutting oil.  I think the
water (also found in dish soap) just carries the energy (heat) away more
effectively than oil alone.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 1:32 PM Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yup. The bubbles coupled with the extreme heat actually cause a
> sublimation (direct change for solid to gas phase) effect in the steel.
> Because of the austenitic nature of the substrate, there is severe
> weakening of the metal in the area of the friction induced heat, e.g. the
> hole.
>
> (I made that up; waiting for my lunch. Idle mind and all that)
>
> Ron Soave
>
> > On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > A couple of years ago I learned a trick for drilling holes in stainless
> steel that works amazingly well.  At work I frequently have to drill
> mounting holes in stainless and it was always a job I disliked because it
> wrecked drill bits and was hard to do.  Then on a job site one day my
> customer told me about this trick - use Dawn dish soap as a cutting fluid.
> When he told me I didn't believe it.  He ran over to their breakroom and
> came back with a bottle of Dawn.  He handed it to me and said try it.  I
> squirted a couple of drops on the punchmark on the stainless and started
> the drill.  It went through almost like soft steel!  I couldn't believe
> it!  Try it - you'll like it.  :-)
> >
> > Sent from my keyboard
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet and
> bought some new  stainless steel from the local supplier.  He had some drop
> cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes drilling holes in
> stainless.  So I paid for a solid piece cut to size.  It is mounted and I'm
> happy ... maybe I should sell a spare midget differential to try and pay
> for my new workbench surface.
> >>
> >> -Trevor
> > ------------------------
> >
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Actually ... I have good luck using water soluble cutting oil.=C2=A0 I thin=
k the water (also found in dish soap) just carries the energy (heat) away m=
ore effectively than oil alone.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 1:32 PM Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:soav=
ero@yahoo.com">soavero@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Yup. The bubbles coupled with the extreme heat actually cause=
 a sublimation (direct change for solid to gas phase) effect in the steel. =
Because of the austenitic nature of the substrate, there is severe weakenin=
g of the metal in the area of the friction induced heat, e.g. the hole.<br>
<br>
(I made that up; waiting for my lunch. Idle mind and all that)<br>
<br>
Ron Soave<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A couple of years ago I learned a trick for drilling holes in stainles=
s steel that works amazingly well.=C2=A0 At work I frequently have to drill=
 mounting holes in stainless and it was always a job I disliked because it =
wrecked drill bits and was hard to do.=C2=A0 Then on a job site one day my =
customer told me about this trick - use Dawn dish soap as a cutting fluid.=
=C2=A0 When he told me I didn&#39;t believe it.=C2=A0 He ran over to their =
breakroom and came back with a bottle of Dawn.=C2=A0 He handed it to me and=
 said try it.=C2=A0 I squirted a couple of drops on the punchmark on the st=
ainless and started the drill.=C2=A0 It went through almost like soft steel=
!=C2=A0 I couldn&#39;t believe it!=C2=A0 Try it - you&#39;ll like it.=C2=A0=
 :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my keyboard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Trevor Jessie via Spridgets &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet a=
nd bought some new=C2=A0 stainless steel from the local supplier.=C2=A0 He =
had some drop cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes dril=
ling holes in stainless.=C2=A0 So I paid for a solid piece cut to size.=C2=
=A0 It is mounted and I&#39;m happy ... maybe I should sell a spare midget =
differential to try and pay for my new workbench surface.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -Trevor<br>
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