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Re: [Spridgets] Manifold flange thickness

To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Manifold flange thickness
From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 22:38:51 +0100
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On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the inlet and
the exhaust ports at the head.

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37, derf <derf247@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would carefully grind washers.  Even if both flanges are the correct
> thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing thicknesses.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I would contact Maniflow and ask them what the correct thickness is to
>> establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold is correc=
t
>> and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be su=
re
>> that something that is claimed to be made by Maniflow really is.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Daniel S
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.
>>> No excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't mat=
ch?
>>> Ridiculous.
>>>
>>> Have you contacted them?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.  Being both Maniflo they
>>> should have matched thicknan.  I have the LCB header (I don't know who
>>> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 ca=
rb.
>>> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flang=
es.
>>> Mike MacLean
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Faulkner via
>>> Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Listerati,
>>> Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term
>>> overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275
>>> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the =
old
>>> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is a=
lso
>>> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I =
have
>>> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torqu=
ing
>>> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for t=
his
>>> measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.  =
Of
>>> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer =
on
>>> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, wh=
ich
>>> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows abo=
ut
>>> .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.  Th=
e
>>> exhaust manifold is snug.
>>>
>>> What would you do?
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals bo=
th the inlet and the exhaust ports at the head.</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37,=
 derf &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:derf247@gmail.com";>derf247@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">I would carefully grind washers.=C2=A0 Even if both flanges are the c=
orrect thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing=C2=A0thickn=
esses.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and ask them what =
the correct thickness is to establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the=
 inlet manifold is correct and then invite them to send a replacement part.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;d also want to be sure that something that is claimed to be ma=
de by Maniflow really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Daniel S</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to =
get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No excuse for this kind of BS.=C2=A0 They ma=
ke both parts and they don&#39;t match?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=A0<div><br></=
div><div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&=
quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_2882220137707801936gmail-m_819480868242658=
9770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yahoo_quoted_98=
03739150">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
ulkner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_2882220137707801936gmail-m_81948086=
82426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562192658747527yiv20322=
76708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<div>Trying to get off my rear end and ma=
ke some progress in my long term overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The=
 engine is now a 20 over 1275 with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3=
 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one exhaust manifold=C2=A0with a Maniflo=
w LCB, the intake manifold is also by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that cam=
e with the car.=C2=A0 The concern I have is that the flange is thicker on t=
he exhaust than on the intake.=C2=A0 Torquing the manifolds until the exhau=
st just touches the block (no gasket for this measurement) leaves the intak=
e manifold with about 35 thousands play.=C2=A0 Of course, this can be taken=
 up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on the intake side (of the co=
mmon studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which ,if nothing else, doesn&#3=
9;t look very cool.=C2=A0 The attached photo shows about .035&quot; of feel=
er between the washero and the intake manifold flange.=C2=A0 The exhaust ma=
nifold is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>What would you do?=C2=
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