Well, I'd have to disagree. You could say that "THIS" car is a factory
Sunbeam Tiger, because it wouldn't be...If the your talking about moving the
Fire wall, rear axle, and tranny tunnel (the major differences), over to an
existing Alpine. This in Essence would be the demise of that Tiger, and the
creation of an Alger, as you guy like to call them. This what other people have
done from Junk yard Tigers. The description below is the same thing, accept the
person owns the Tiger.
If, however, Alpine Body parts were brought over to the Tiger's frame and
incorporated into the Tiger, then it would be the demise of the Alpine, and the
Tiger would be rebuilt, or if some of the secret Jensen welds, or overlaps or
whatever are now missing due to the Alpine parts being used extensively, then
the Tiger should be considered a Re-Bodied Tiger. If all of the secret parts
are intact (in-Tac'ed), then it would be a normal restored Tiger.
That's how I would see it. But then again, I'm not a member of TAC, and
won't be buying a Tiger anyway...
Rich
However
-----Original Message-----
From: brockctella@juno.com <brockctella@juno.com>
To: harde@cyberesc.net <harde@cyberesc.net>
Cc: tjordan@wagnerprocess.com <tjordan@wagnerprocess.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
<tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: TAC
>Ok, I'll remind you, first I have had my Tiger since new so put aside
>your Alger conspiracy. My view is that the more Tigers that are saved,
>the better for our marque. Many of the restorations that are shown at
>Pebble Beach etc. are cars with nothing original than their title or
>build plate. Many cars are created from scratch. If a Tiger has rusted
>away so the body is not worth saving why not transfer the Tiger to an
>Alpine body? As long as no one is creating a non existant Tiger whats the
>harm. We seem to be the only marque having a secret commitee. If someone
>buys Tiger that is not a Tiger, that is fraud and is easily remedied.
>Sunbeams are known to rust badly so lets not lose a Tiger because some
>weld or cut was not made at the Jensen factory. We already know of
>factory Tigers that were built with Alpine bodies. Lets save the Tigers.
>
>On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:45:24 -0700 "JAN HARDE" <harde@cyberesc.net>
>writes:
>>Tim,
>>I feel really very bad for the new owner of that MK2 Alger, it is a
>>very
>>beautiful car, I looked at it for someone last year, sad part is that
>>the
>>owners knew that it was not the real thing, to then have the Balls to
>>auction the car.. Is beyond me, the legal ramifications and exposure,
>>must
>>be tremendous.
>>If this was a Ferrari or a Cobra, WOW people would be all over them,
>>and in
>>fact the value of the car should not dictate prosecution or not, but
>>rather
>>the intent of the act...
>>
>>TAC is great, but needs wider exposure and also for our European and
>>all
>>around the Globe Friends as well..
>>
>>See Ya' Jan....
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tim Jordan <tjordan@wagnerprocess.com>
>>To: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>>Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 9:51 AM
>>Subject: Fw: TAC
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----------
>>>> From: Tim Jordan <tjordan@wagnerprocess.com>
>>>> To: norman miller <rootes1@best.com>
>>>> Subject: TAC
>>>> Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 3:37 PM
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Now what is so important about this TAC stuff anyway?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure after all the dust settles on this sale that the
>>>> auction committee at Monterey/Pebble Beach will be
>>>> anxious for more Tigers to go on their "Block".
>>>>
>>>> How do you type a very light "I told you, i told you, i told.......
>>>> The "I" refers not to myself, but the few who have warned us
>>regarding
>>>this
>>>> felonious fraud.
>>>>
>>>> If it was an authentic Mk II, a sale around 30K would have
>>>> been great exposure for the Marque.
>>>>
>>>> Confusion, bad publicity, Alpine conversions winning Tiger class
>>concours
>>>> events, and fraud are not what I expected when I purchased my Tiger
>>a few
>>>years
>>>> ago. To think that a TAC program embraced by the clubs and owners
>>would
>>>eliminate all this.
>>> I recall some opposition to TAC but need to be reminded of the
>>>rationale. Maybe the
>>>> opposition is from those doing the conversions and those that have
>>to
>>>recoup their investment
>>>> in an ALGER.
>>>>
>>>> I'm well into the restoration of B9470080/TAC#235 with the goal of
>>>having
>>>> a fine show car that will be driven occasionally. At this point I
>>will
>>>not
>>>> enter the Tiger in any future Club or Tiger events that do not
>>require
>>>the entries to show
>>>> authenticity.
>>>> It should be policy, No TAC sticker/No entry in points events.
>>>>
>>>> OK, fire away!
>>>> Tim Jordan
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Did I mention that my Tiger is the Mystery Miles race car
>>#50.
>>>Yes, all the race
>>> stuff has been taken off and the car was returned to
>>original
>>>stock configuration
>>>> many years ago. The color is still the original BRG and
>>if you
>>>look close you can
>>> almost make out the #50 on the doors.
>>>>
>>>> P.S.S. Would you believe the rare Tow Tiger for the Mystery Miles
>>race
>>>car #50.
>>>> I know this because there are several holes in the
>>truck
>>>floor
>>>> for the tow bar.
>>>>
>>>> No! Would you believe it is just a nice survivor that
>>has
>>>> potential for a great restoration.
>>>> See how easy and fun this can be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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