Jan, and Listers,
I agree with you. I think that a HUGE benefit of the 'net is that it is (or can
be) so completely different from any conventionally organized
club/newsletter/database that everyone should recognize it as a benefit and not
as a threat to their regional club. There is, after all, only so much that we
can share by electronic media, and the rest has to come from the local Tigering
community.
On a somewhat related topic (i.e. collecting tech tips etc.), what has become of
Mark Olson's website and specifically the tiger list archive? Is anyone else
archiving this list?
Theo Smit
tsmit@novatel.ca
B382002705
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAN HARDE [SMTP:harde@cyberesc.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:12 PM
> To: Theo Smit
> Cc: TIGER LIST
> Subject: Re: National club
>
> Theo,
>
> You are so right, the real purpose is to refine the basics of this page,
> like Steve said, an organized archiving of the tech tips, a current calendar
> of events, all over the world, as to give the globetrotters a chance to
> visit Funbeam events worldwide whilst on vacations.
> A current parts exchange, vendors for all over the world, a space for each
> club in their region to submit a monthly entry of interest.
> Cars for sale, again from all over the world, and I could go on and on.
> This forum is great, but you can not go to any searchengine or Netword and
> find it, you have to subscribe to get it, and the tech tips have no order to
> them, the common voice out there is saying, give me a way to find a "HOW
> TO" on a specific topic, like a tach problem, a 5 speed conversion, an amp
> meter installation, overheating etc..
> Remember this is an idea in the birthing stages, and INPUT is much needed,
> it is not intended to be competition against any one or any entity, but
> rather a support net for all of them, to know all the clubs out there, to
> know their activities, etc., this will bring a larger membership, and also
> get some competition going between each of the regional clubs to excel, and
> come up with new and exciting stuff, as to attract more HAPPY and satisfied
> new members..
>
> INPUT INPUT INPUT!!!
>
>
> Warm regards,
> Jan S-E Harde
> Monkey Bikes and Mini Trail *FUN* : http://www.monkeybike.com
> TIGER pages: http://www.monkeybike.com/pinkbunny.html
> Find anything *FAST* go to: http://www.netword.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Theo Smit <TSmit@novatel.ca>
> To: <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:09 AM
> Subject: RE: National club
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > I am a relative newcomer to the List and to Tigering in general, but I've
> been
> > involved in the canadian motorsports scene (at least on a regional level)
> for
> > the last 14 years or so, and I've watched a few national and regional
> > organizations auger into the ground because of infighting and because of
> the
> > various disciplines each deciding that their needs were more important
> than the
> > others. I don't know if there is anything that can be done about that in
> the
> > traditional 'club' sense when it's applied to a national or international
> level.
> >
> > Enter the Internet.
> >
> > Isn't this mailing list the _international_ Tiger club? It's a little
> > disorganized, but every level and aspect of Tiger appreciation is
> presented here
> > on an equal level, and everyone's voice is equally heard and considered.
> Various
> > individuals maintain their own websites to reflect their particular vision
> of
> > Tigering, and maybe they and others will jointly participate in
> contributing to
> > an edited, 'master' Website, where a consensus view or all views can be
> > presented. The distribution of knowledge and information was never this
> easy and
> > could never be as complete as it is in this forum.
> >
> > Theo Smit
> > tsmit@novatel.ca
> > B382002705
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vonski@aol.com [SMTP:Vonski@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:37 AM
> > > To: tigers@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: National club
> > >
> > > Okay.
> > > I still feel Tigers, and Sunbeams at large deserve a National Club. I
> also
> > > feel that the regional clubs, who have carried and supported the marque
> > > through thick and thin over the years deserve the continued support of
> their
> > > memberships. Many of these clubs were founded with the hope of becoming
> the
> > > 'national club', but were limited by regionality, and the success of
> > > competing clubs. How do we get a national club then, and not destroy
> the
> > > membership base for the regional clubs? Remember, that CAT, STOA, and
> TE/AE
> > > can only survive with membership dollars. If they go, so does CAT
> Parts,
> > > STOA's TAC Program and the Technical work of TE/AE.
> > >
> > > A national club HAS to support existing clubs. So, how?
> > >
> > > The National Club is formed from the existing clubs-all members of
> regional
> > > clubs are AUTOMATICALLY members in the National Club. A
> "Confederation", if
> > > you wish. Thus, no need to jump ship from your regional club, you keep
> your
> > > local orientation, the clubs keep their members and dollars, but we
> finally
> > > have a National Organization. Have a National Board of Representatives
> from
> > > the member clubs, which then vote in leadership. The National Club
> would
> > > then send a two page "National Update' to each regional club for
> inclusion in
> > > its monthly newsletter. Dues would increase per member by a small
> amount to
> > > support the national club activities. Sunbeamers would finally have a
> > > unified voice nationally-without gutting the local clubs.
> > >
> > > National would be a 'clearinghouse', where plans were coordinated, yet
> the
> > > regional clubs would maintain their local control. This way, there
> would not
> > > be the huge overhead of a full fledged organization. Also, the local
> clubs
> > > could 'franchise' their various specialties to the national club-CAT
> Parts
> > > could be available to all national members, if CAT so chose...possibly
> with a
> > > nominal charge per order to 'non-CAT members' to allow CAT to get
> something
> > > too.
> > >
> > > I have talked about this since I was the newsletter editor YEARS :>) ago
> for
> > > the Pacific Tiger Club. This was tried years earlier with the STAC
> Accord,
> > > but was never empowered. Many feel that SUNI could do this, with enough
> > > effort...they already run the national meet-why not? I suggest ALL of
> you
> > > going to MT next month, especially who have a role in your local club,
> talk
> > > about this-this is ultimately going to have to start with the clubs in
> > > agreement.
> > >
> > > A national organization would make it easier to pursue the advancement
> of the
> > > marque in the eyes of the public, as well as speaking with a much larger
> > > voice to government, vendors and the media.
> > >
> > > Hopefully brighter minds then mine will turn their attention and efforts
> to
> > > this cause, and work to form a National organization. I wish them every
> > > success.
> > >
> > > Von Levandowski
> > > former owner of a '65 Mark I with faded paint, torn upholstery but shiny
> LAT
> > > 9s...
> > >
> > > P.S. Seems this is the only topic that ever gets me going enough to open
> my
> > > yap and speak. So, count your blessings!!
> >
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