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Re: inquiry 042400a

To: "Pete Stanisavljevich" <pete_stanisavljevich@coxtarget.com>,
Subject: Re: inquiry 042400a
From: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:57:41 -0700
Peter,

That is a lot of horsepower to disappear down the drain, isn't it. Well, 
there are a number of places it could be going. If you listen to some 
people, there's twenty horsepower eaten up by the engine fan, another 
twenty by the water pump, and so forth. I don't really believe these high 
numbers either, but at least some parasitic loss is going to items like 
this, depending on how the engine is configured on the engine dyno. I'm 
sure Ford uses the most stripped down configuration possible to come up 
with 225 HP. On the chassis dyno, you do have rolling resistance, plus some 
other friction added by the rollers that couple the tires to the dyno. 
Also, it's hard to equate horsepower to the torque you apply by hand. If 
you don't think rolling resistance is significant, try pushing your car 
around on level ground. If you measure the force it takes to just roll and 
multiply by speed (with the appropriate constant for the units used), this 
will give the horsepower consumed by rolling resistance. Notice that the 
horsepower required is proportional to speed; that is, it takes twice as 
much horsepower for a given acceleration at 60 mph as it does at 30 mph, 
and so forth. Also, you can measure the amount of torque it takes to turn 
the wheels when the car is jacked up and multiply by rpm, then divide by 
5252 and this gives the HP consumed by the drive train. Since most of this 
is probably viscous resistance which goes up with rpm, then the actual loss 
is probably a lot higher. But it wouldn't take many horsepower to make the 
tranny and differential oil get real hot, so I'm guessing only a very few 
horsepower is actually heating the oil and bearings, etc.

I'll be curious what other people have to say about this.

TTFN,

Bob


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