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Re: Boss 302 in Tiger???

To: "James Barrett" <jamesbrt@mindspring.com>, "Gene"
Subject: Re: Boss 302 in Tiger???
From: "Ken Mattice" <cat347@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:26:23 -0800
James,
Perhaps the problem is, that you were thinking and writing about tourk, and
I was thinking about torque... or lack thereof...
Best Regards,
Ken Mattice
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Barrett" <jamesbrt@mindspring.com>
To: "Gene" <tigeriowa@yahoo.com>
Cc: <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Boss 302 in Tiger???


> At 01:11 PM 10/29/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Has anyone had the experience of installing a Boss 302
> >engine in a Tiger?  Can this be done without fender or
> >firewall modifications?  Just curious?
> >Thanks
> >Gene
> >
> >=====
> >Gene Sokolowski
> >4845 Crestview Dr.
> >Sioux City, Iowa 51104
> >(712) 239-4718
> >B9472068
> >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
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> >
>         I put a Boss 302 in my Tiger II  in  1973.
> Did a write up that was published in Swap Talk,Popular Hot Rod
> Feb 74 pages 20,22.  Later, the article appeared in
> STOA Technical Tips 1977.  How STOA was able to "Copywrite"
> my article still boggles my mind  I was never contacted
> about the article.
>         For all of the "experts" who have never had a BOSS 302
> in their Tiger, There is way more than enough tourk in a Tiger II
> with 2.88 rear to burn the tires off all the way through 3rd or
> conversley start in high gear and go to 140 MPH with no shift.
> The BOSS 302 doesn't mind a Tiger that is 1000 lbs less than
> its previous home in a Ford.  In my case the BOSS 302 was also
> ported to enlarge the intakes even more.
>
>         Some of the changes I did to run the BOSS 302:
>
> Swap to a regular Windsor water pump to keep water outlet on same
> side as 260 or 289.
> Relocate crank damper timing mark for visability with the waterpump.
> Removed front pully from the BOSS 302 double pully to miss steering.
> Original motor mounts lined up perfectly.
> Lakewood scatter shield required that the firewall be streached with a
hammer
> to miss the starter hump.
> 1" spacers on the slave cylinder Tiger II bracket to fit the Lakewood
shield.
> Lengethen the slave cylinder push rod by 1/2".
> Cut firewall directly below the cross wise triangle brace and push back to
the
> inner firewall and reweld to the inner firewall.
> Cut access holes in firewall to reach the rear valve cover bolts.
> Real bitch to adjust the solid lifter valves every so often.
> Fabricate headers,  Using "4 wide" collector for ground clearance.
> Headers are very very tight with no fenderwell mods.  I used 1 3/4"
> tubes, which were smaller than the exhaust ports, but couldn't fit larger.
> Moved steering column left about 1/2" at first U-Joint. Simply to do by
> bending the sheet metal bracket holding the steering column.
> Spark plugs are extreamly hard to reach.  Taking the steering column out
> and the master cylinder out eases the problem of changing plugs.
> Modified the forging for the Tiger II alternator bracket to mate with
> the Cleveland head bolt pattern.
>         Tiger II radiator is not adequate for a BOSS 302 with a stock
> 780 Double pumper Holly, getting 9 miles to a gallon.  Stay out of traffic
> and keep speed up. 11.5 to 1 compression doesn't work well with 93 octane
> gas.
>
>         Now my 351C 4 barrel motor (same heads as has BOSS 302) but taller
> and wider block has all the room in the world.  1 5/8" Header pipes.
> Could have gone to 1 7/8" with no problem.  Flat top pistons for
> 9.5 to 1 compression.  Eats 93 octane OK.
> Only slight problem changing #5 plug due to the steering column in the
> way.  Major changes to put the 351C in.  New frames 4" wider, fender
> wells moved out, 4" wider radiator, Firewall moved back. Fabricated motor
> mounts for the wider frames. Fabricated Alternate bracket. Radiator
> modified for lower left outlet and upper right inlet. Can lift the
> big aluminum valve covers up with no problems.  Full 360 degree radiator
> schroud.  6 bladed steel fan. (same one I used on the 289 and BOSS 302)
> Does not overheat in traffic. 13 MPH around town. 13.2 sec and 129 MPH
> in the quarter with a stock C4 automatic and 2.8 open rear.  Some day
> I may gear it correctly and get the ET down.
> Use a 650 double pumper Holly.  It could use a bigger carb,
> but I commute every day and need to have some mpg.
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