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Re: [Tigers] Shelby Obits

To: Randy Zimmermann <zimme008@yahoo.com>, "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby Obits
From: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:27:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Yes, Ken Miles did do an extremely crude proof of concept that couldn't even
pass as an bad "Alger" if done  today (auto tranny, recirculating ball
steering). I'd consider the George Baskoff car to be a much more refined
effort, but still just a proof of concept. There weren't design drawings or
engineering testing results from that activity. Jensen did the real
design/development engineering work for Rootes based on the concept from
Shelby.

Maybe semantics, but it's my assessment as a mechanical engineer with
most my career in product development and engineering.

Stephen Waybright
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 From: Randy Zimmermann <zimme008@yahoo.com>
To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15,
2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby Obits
 
I'm far, far from an expert
on the Tiger's history but from my reading of the
Robson and Carroll's
versions, the hot rod Alpine was a product of Ken Miles
individual efforts in
his home garage while the Shelby American team (under
the direction of George
Boskoff) produced the more "refined" V8 Alpine that
was sent to England to
guide Tiger production at Jensen.  


Ken delivered his
prototype faster and
it was used for the infamous Billy Rootes test drive in
L.A.  The Shelby
American version took longer but produced a more
sophisticated design and,
thus, was the model forwarded to England.

R.I.P.
Carroll Shelby

It will be
interesting to follow what happens to the red Tiger
that was part of his
collection and could be seen in the background of the
interviews Carroll gave
not too long ago for the Shelby-themed Barrett-Jackson
auctions.


Randy Z.
Duluth, MN
1967 Tiger MkIa
________________________________


On 5/15/12,
Stephen Waybright
<gswaybright@yahoo.com> wrote:


> "As much as I like the
Shelby connection
with Tigers (and love the Tiger), it really was
> limited to
a one-off hot rod
Alpine, proof of concept car... the real production
>
engineering was done by
Jensen and I've never heard that Shelby had any
>
direct engagement with
Rootes Group / Sunbeam corporate management. "
>
>
Stephen Waybright
>
> 
>
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