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Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts

To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com, "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts
From: Sandy <sganz@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 11:55:39 -0800
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I have a dog box in my Mustang (Tex/GForce T101A) and I can tell you 
that it is nothing short of amazing on the track. It does not mater what 
you do if you pull that handle it will shift (up or down). I had pulled 
out a Tremec TKO which was poor shifting at high RPM. When I first hit 
the track with it and shifted I thought I broke something. They CLUNK 
with/without the clutch and shift like lightning.   Sorta' like an old 
outboard engine going into gear... In any case I'm sure 2 things that 
don't like the transmission, the thrust bearing and the rear end!

And just like Owain said if feels like something is going to break, but 
the trade off is shifting a SBF past 7500 RPM only operator error is 
left for chance :)

The gear whine is cool too if you have straight cut gears. Used to be 
plenty of T101A from NASCAR and they were a good buy as many were sold 
by Tex/GForce  as rebuilt and you could pick any ratio and came with 
shifters. They I have a spare and thought about the potential in the 
tiger but they are too wide and big for the tiger, would be a hand full 
but would be very cool.

Sandy


On 11/2/2014 9:31 AM, Owain Lloyd wrote:
> David Higgins once told me he never uses the clutch except for starting
> off.  Even with a synchromesh box.  This was several years ago and I since
> have started doing that a lot in some cars. If the engine is responsive and
> the gears close together and you are intimate with the car it's quite easy.
>    Depending on the box, it's often possible to shift extremely quickly.
>
> Of course, dog boxes are designed for that and you just bang the gears.
> I'd be surprised if Tom Patton's car doesn't have a dog box.  If you've
> only ever experienced synchromesh boxes, a dog box is quite a shock.
> Sounds and feels like the diff is going to fall out every time you shift.
> It's a wonderful mechanical feeling!
>
> On Sunday, November 2, 2014, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert
>>          If you watch races from the UK and Australia you will see
>> sequential
>> gear box shifting.  The shifter is pushed forward or pulled back to change
>> gears.  I believe some of those racing gear boxes do not require clutching
>> just a blip of the throttle is enough to change gears.
>>
>>          I once saw a magazine article that put a round plate on an American
>> 4 speed with cams and slots to make it into a sequential type shifter.
>> This
>> seemed too complicated to be race worthy but who knows.
>>
>> Tom Patton probably has a short throw shifter set up.  I don't believe
>> sequential gear boxes are allowed in GT2 but I'm not up on the rules for
>> that class.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net <javascript:;>] On
>> Behalf Of Robert D.
>> Hogan
>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 9:59 AM
>> To: 'Tiger's Den'
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts
>>
>>
>> In watching the You Tube video on Tom Patton's GT2 race at either Grattan
>> or
>> Gingerman raceway, the speed of his shifts look like a sequential shifter.
>> Is there a quicker shifting alternative for road racing than using the
>> conventional clutch upshift / downshift?
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