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Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs

To: Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkII VINs
From: Tom Parker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:29:48 -0400
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All I know is mine was the 8th off the assembly line ACCORDING TO THE JAL
TAG. What the implications are I do not know. I'm not a student of the
marque, just the owner of an early Mark 2.

Tom
'67 Mark 2.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com> wrote=
:

> Tom:
>
> As I said in my previous email, 00001 and 00002 were assembled by Rootes,
> not Jensen, and do not carry JAL tags, according to the note in the SS
> catalog. In the pics I got for 00002, I could see no JAL tag. Whether
> Jensen took into account 00001 and 00002 when they began assigning JAL
> numbers to the cars they assembled, I could not say. I have seen, in the
> past, many examples where serial numbers and JAL numbers are not in
> sequence. My guess is that Jensen was not at all careful with assigning J=
AL
> numbers as they assembled the cars.
>
> Tod
>
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2016 9:49 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
>
> Ron,
>
> My JAL tag is 700008, my Serial Number is B382100105. If the sequence is
> accurate the implication is Jensen built s/n's B382100001 & 0002 in
> addition to 100 - 105. I'm assuming, of course, that the JAL Tag shows th=
e
> sequence of assembly AT Jensen,,
>
> Tom
> '67 Mark 2
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Tod Brown via Tigers <
> <tigers@autox.team.net>tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Actually, there were two MkII's assembled by Rootes before production
>> was turned
>> over to Jensen. They carry serial numbers B382100001 and B382100002 but
>> no JAL
>> numbers. The Jensen run began with B382100100 and ended with ...633. See
>> the
>> note in the SS Catalog:
>>
>> MARK II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH
>> SERIAL # B382100001
>> AND #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #=E2=80=99S (JENSEN ALPINE LTD. BODY #=
)
>> WHICH INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES,
>> NEVER GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-
>> PRODUCTION PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100
>> 100 WHICH CARRIES
>> A JAL NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.
>>
>> There were also six (IIRC) MkIA's fitted with the MkII mechanicals (289
>> block, wide-
>> ratio trans, modified Watts linkage, etc.) but were badged as MkIA's at
>> the end of
>> the MkIA run at Jensen.
>>
>> Tod Brown
>> B382002384LRXFE
>> TAC 864
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">All I know is mine was the 8th off the assembly line ACCOR=
DING TO THE JAL TAG. What the implications are I do not know. I&#39;m not a=
 student of the marque, just the owner of an early Mark 2.<div><br></div><d=
iv>Tom</div><div>&#39;67 Mark 2.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Tod Brown <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:todbrown@roadrunner.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">todbrown@roadrunner.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <div>Tom:<br>
      <br>
      As I said in my previous email, 00001 and 00002 were assembled by
      Rootes, not Jensen, and do not carry JAL tags, according to the
      note in the SS catalog. In the pics I got for 00002, I could see
      no JAL tag. Whether Jensen took into account 00001 and 00002 when
      they began assigning JAL numbers to the cars they assembled, I
      could not say. I have seen, in the past, many examples where
      serial numbers and JAL numbers are not in sequence. My guess is
      that Jensen was not at all careful with assigning JAL numbers as
      they assembled the cars.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888=
"><br>
      <br>
      Tod</font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 7/16/2016 9:49 AM, Tom Parker wrote:<br>
    </div></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5">
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Ron,=C2=A0
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>My JAL tag is 700008, my Serial Number is B382100105. If
          the sequence is accurate the implication is Jensen built s/n&#39;=
s
          B382100001 &amp; 0002 in addition to 100 - 105. I&#39;m assuming,
          of course, that the JAL Tag shows the sequence of assembly AT
          Jensen,,
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Tom</div>
          <div>&#39;67 Mark 2</div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Tod
          Brown via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <font face=3D"Arial"=
><font face=3D"Arial">Actually<font face=3D"Arial">, there were
                    two MkII&#39;s assembled by Rootes before production wa=
s
                    turned <br>
                    <font face=3D"Arial">over to Jensen. They carry serial
                      numbers B382100001 and B382100002 but no JAL<br>
                      <font face=3D"Arial">numbers. The Jensen run began
                        with B382100100 and ended with ...633<font face=3D"=
Arial">. See the<br>
                          <font face=3D"Arial">note in the SS Catalog:<br>
                          </font></font></font></font></font></font></font>=
<br>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">MARK
                II PRODUCTION NUMBERS VARY. CARS WITH</div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">SERIAL
                # B382100001 </div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">AND
                #B382100002 EXIST WITH NO JAL #=E2=80=99S (JENSEN ALPINE LT=
D.
                BODY #) </div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">WHICH
                INDICATES THE CARS WERE COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED BY ROOTES,
              </div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">NEVER
                GOING TO THE JENSEN PLANT AND MUST HAVE BEEN A PRE-</div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">PRODUC=
TION
                PILOT CARS. THE NEXT MK II IS B382100</div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">100
                WHICH CARRIES </div>
              <div style=3D"font-size:11.6px;font-family:sans-serif">A JAL
                NUMBER, THE FIRST OF THE MK II SERIES.<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              <font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial=
"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=
=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><=
font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D=
"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial"><fon=
t face=3D"Arial"><font face=3D"Arial">There
                                                    were also six (IIRC)
                                                    MkIA<font face=3D"Arial=
">&#39;<font face=3D"Arial">s f<font face=3D"Arial">itted
                                                          with the MkII
                                                          mechanicals
                                                          (289 block,
                                                          wide-<br>
                                                          <font face=3D"Ari=
al">ratio

                                                          trans,
                                                          modified<font fac=
e=3D"Arial">
                                                          Watts link<font f=
ace=3D"Arial">age</font>,
                                                          etc<font face=3D"=
Arial">.)

                                                          but were
                                                          badged as
                                                          MkIA&#39;s<font f=
ace=3D"Arial">
                                                          at the end of<br>
                                                          <font face=3D"Ari=
al">the

                                                          MkIA run at
                                                          Jensen. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font face=3D"Ari=
al">Tod

                                                          Brown<br>
                                                          <font face=3D"Ari=
al">B382002384LRXFE<br>
                                                          <font face=3D"Ari=
al">TAC

                                                          864</font></font>=
</font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></fon=
t></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>
                            </font></font></font></font></font></font><br>
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