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All
Thanks for the responses.=C2=A0 I am personally PLEASED with the changes th=
at I have made.=C2=A0 16 minutes at idle to reach 200 degrees or 11 minutes=
to go from 174 when running to 200 degrees, I think is pretty good, at lea=
st based on my previous experience with idle temps rising.=C2=A0 This allow=
s me to drive the car in most any and all conditions.=C2=A0=20
I guess from the responses you all do not think so - maybe I am missing som=
ething - would not be the first time.=C2=A0 I do live out in the country wi=
th around only 90K people in the county so not much city driving.
The water pump upgrade was made more for reducing possible air cavitation o=
r pockets of air than the higher flow of water.
No restrictor in upper hose at this point - tried in the past and removed i=
t - did not seem to make a difference.
Running 50/50 green antifreeze and 16 psi cap.=C2=A0=20
Joel
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=C2=A0 1. Re:=C2=A0 Tiger Overheating ? Shotgun Approach (Tom Witt)
I know this has been a long running problem for you. And as time moves on I=
can=E2=80=99t remember what has or hasn=E2=80=99t been said. Aside from the=
obvious (cloggedradiator/engine, blades eroded off water pumps, air pocket=
s etc.) there havebeen other causes of high temperature readings:=C2=A01. T=
here might not actually be a problem with the cooling. Rather the voltage r=
egulator for the temp gauge may be defective and causing a higher thanactua=
l reading.=C2=A02. The lower radiator hose collapses. This typically happen=
s as the rpm=E2=80=99sincrease (so not an =E2=80=9Cat idle=E2=80=9D issue) =
the lower hose sucks in and pinches flow. Astainless steel spring set inter=
nal to the hose (many source this from a lawnsprinkler) prevents the collap=
se.=C2=A0The blocking plates and other means of preventing hot air recircul=
ation arehelpful.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve seen a flat sheet of aluminum between =
the lower section ofthe grill area and the radiator.=C2=A0 My understanding=
of the air dam is thatit is more effective at speed. I was told it generat=
es a negative air pressureto draw air from the engine compartment.=C2=A0 I =
truly believe a shroud would bevery helpful. Otherwise to some extent you a=
re simply churning hot air alreadyunder the hood. A well fitting shroud wou=
ld ensure air is drawn externally. Asnoted others have found an electric pu=
sher fan helpful.=C2=A0In this day and age of the GoPro camera I think it w=
ould be interesting toto do the old school yarn application and observe wha=
t is actually going onunder the hood, under the car, and the external areas=
such as the horn openingsand proposed air dam areas etc. A few well placed=
homemade man-o-meters might beinformative too.=C2=A0Then there are the arg=
uments as to whether a high flow water pump pulls hotcoolant out of the eng=
ine faster (good) or pushes it too fast through theradiator (bad). Is coola=
nt good because it raises the boiling point, or badbecause it is less effic=
ient than straight water.=C2=A0 There are the peoplewith a stock cooling sy=
stem (and sometimes performance enhancements to the engine) that claim they=
never have a heat issue in a hot climate and those incooler climates that =
have stock engines and every cooling enhancement known toTigerdom and they =
constantly have issues.=C2=A0In the end I hope you are successful and enjoy=
a the summer driving yournow running cool Tiger.=C2=A0From: Joel Martin vi=
a Tigers Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:04 AMTo: Tiger List Serve Subject: =
[Tigers] Tiger Overheating =E2=80=93 ShotgunApproach=C2=A0After about a yea=
r of struggling with overheating at idle with the hooddown, I took drastic =
steps.=C2=A0 I have been driving the car during the last year only on back =
roads with no chance of traffic lights.
=C2=A0
=20
- Purchased and installed SS gloss black radiator overflow tank.=20
- Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander Washick=C2=
=A0alw6464@gmail.com which are powder coated.=20
- Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert Stragh=
an <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black=20
- Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen <dlutje=
n55@gmail.com> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.=20
- Purchased and installed new taller Tiger aluminum cross flow side tank=
radiator from Griffin Radiator.=20
- Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Fo=
rd dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line u=
p.=20
- Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D =
from radiator.=20
- Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.=20
- Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator=
hoses.=20
- New top radiator hose from local source as SS hose would not fit talle=
r radiator.=20
- New fan belt.=20
- Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fi=
t as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my=
taller radiator.=C2=A0 Stripped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss=
black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.=20
- Installed 160 degree thermostat.
So at this pointI do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custo=
m.=C2=A0 Otherchanges could make is front air dam and block front cross mem=
ber to bottom ofradiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things p=
lay out thissummer.
Results asfollows:
Cold start with86 degree ambient outside temperature =E2=80=93 at idle with=
hood closed, car insun.
5 Minutes enginetemperature 174 degrees.
9 Minutes enginetemperature 180 degrees.
12 Minutesengine temperature 190 degrees.
14 Minutesengine temperature 195 degrees.
16 Minutesengine temperature 200 degrees.
Run the motor at1500 rpm=E2=80=99s for 1minute temperature drops to 196 deg=
rees.
Run the motor at2000 rpm=E2=80=99s for another 1minute temperature drops to=
194 degrees.
Turn motor offand in a total of 27 minutes from startup - heat soak is 208 =
degrees.
All this isrecorded from temporary mechanical temperature gauge located und=
erdash.
The cartemperature at any speed is at 174 degrees regardless of the outside=
ambienttemperature from 50=E2=80=99s to mid 90=E2=80=99s.
Whew, maybe atlast can enjoy car with a couple of things still outstanding =
to be able to driveit out of town for any distance.=C2=A0 The Tiger=E2=80=
=99s first majorouting was at the Sandhills Motoring Festival held in Pineh=
urst NC last month inMay =E2=80=93 you can get a glimpse of the cars at:=C2=
=A0 https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_d49=
fdacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html=C2=A0You might have to copy and past=
e link into your browser.
Thank you allfor putting up with all my inane questions and comments over t=
he years.=C2=A0 Iam sure there will be more.
Regards
JoelMartin
=C2=A0
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp3a600384yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>All<=
br><div><br><div><div><div>Thanks for the responses. I am personally =
PLEASED with the changes that I have made. 16 minutes at idle to reac=
h 200 degrees or 11 minutes to go from 174 when running to 200 degrees, I t=
hink is pretty good, at least based on my previous experience with idle tem=
ps rising. This allows me to drive the car in most any and all condit=
ions. <br><div><br>I guess from the responses you all do not think so=
- maybe I am missing something - would not be the first time. I do l=
ive out in the country with around only 90K people in the county so not muc=
h city driving.</div></div><div><br><div>The water pump upgrade was made mo=
re for reducing possible air cavitation or pockets of air than the higher f=
low of water.<br><div><br><div>No restrictor in upper hose at this point - =
tried in the past and removed it - did not seem to make a difference.<br>Ru=
nning 50/50 green antifreeze and 16 psi cap. <br></div></div></div></=
div></div><div><br>Joel<br></div></div></div></div><div></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>
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ger Overheating ? Shotgun Approach (Tom Witt)<br><div id=3D"ydp2605580cymsg=
84374" class=3D"ydp2605580cymsg9944149083"><div id=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261=
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<div>I know this has been a long running problem for you. And as time moves=
on I
can=E2=80=99t remember what has or hasn=E2=80=99t been said. Aside from the=
obvious (clogged
radiator/engine, blades eroded off water pumps, air pockets etc.) there hav=
e
been other causes of high temperature readings:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>1. There might not actually be a problem with the cooling. Rather the=
=20
voltage regulator for the temp gauge may be defective and causing a higher =
than
actual reading.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>2. The lower radiator hose collapses. This typically happens as the rp=
m=E2=80=99s
increase (so not an =E2=80=9Cat idle=E2=80=9D issue) the lower hose sucks i=
n and pinches flow. A
stainless steel spring set internal to the hose (many source this from a la=
wn
sprinkler) prevents the collapse.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The blocking plates and other means of preventing hot air recirculatio=
n are
helpful. I=E2=80=99ve seen a flat sheet of aluminum between the lower=
section of
the grill area and the radiator. My understanding of the air dam is t=
hat
it is more effective at speed. I was told it generates a negative air press=
ure
to draw air from the engine compartment. I truly believe a shroud wou=
ld be
very helpful. Otherwise to some extent you are simply churning hot air alre=
ady
under the hood. A well fitting shroud would ensure air is drawn externally.=
As
noted others have found an electric pusher fan helpful.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>In this day and age of the GoPro camera I think it would be interestin=
g to
to do the old school yarn application and observe what is actually going on
under the hood, under the car, and the external areas such as the horn open=
ings
and proposed air dam areas etc. A few well placed homemade man-o-meters mig=
ht be
informative too.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Then there are the arguments as to whether a high flow water pump pull=
s hot
coolant out of the engine faster (good) or pushes it too fast through the
radiator (bad). Is coolant good because it raises the boiling point, or bad
because it is less efficient than straight water. There are the peopl=
e
with a stock cooling system (and sometimes performance enhancements to the=
=20
engine) that claim they never have a heat issue in a hot climate and those =
in
cooler climates that have stock engines and every cooling enhancement known=
to
Tigerdom and they constantly have issues.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>In the end I hope you are successful and enjoy a the summer driving yo=
ur
now running cool Tiger.</div>
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-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;">
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font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch=
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Joel Martin via Tigers</=
a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 18, 2019 9:04 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
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>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tiger Overheating =E2=80=93 Shotgun
Approach</div></div></div>
<div> </div></div>
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16px;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times, serif;">
<div>
<div>After about a year of struggling with overheating at idle with the hoo=
d
down, I took drastic steps.<span> </span>I have been driving the car=
=20
during the last year only on back roads with no chance of traffic lights.
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"> </p>
<ol style=3D"LIST-STYLE-POSITION:inside;MARGIN-TOP:0in;list-style-position:=
inside;list-style-position: inside;list-style-position: inside;list-style-=
position: inside" type=3D"1">
<li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal">Purchased and =
installed SS gloss black radiator
overflow tank.
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal">Purchased=
and installed overflow tank straps
from <span class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">A=
lexander Washick</span><span class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0un=
cz1vrpvf"> <a href=3D"mailto:alw6464@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">alw6464@gmail.com</a> which are powder
coated.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
installed undersize water pump pulley from </span><span class=3D"ydp26055=
80cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">Robert Straghan</span><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> <rgstraghan@yahoo.=
ca> scuffed, primed and
painted semi gloss black</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
installed horn hole block plates from </span><span class=3D"ydp2605580cyi=
v7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">Don Lutjen</span><span class=3D"ydp2=
605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> <dlutjen55@gmail.com> scu=
ffed, primed and
painted semi gloss black.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
installed new taller Tiger aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from Gr=
iffin
Radiator.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to m=
atch
engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Modified the
mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</=
span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Mechanical
fan remains Flex-a-lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator hoses.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">New top
radiator hose from local source as SS hose would not fit taller
radiator.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">New fan
belt.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and
refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I did not wa=
nt to
cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller
radiator.<span> </span>Stripped, primed and painted used shroud sem=
i
gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</span>
</li><li class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span cla=
ss=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Installed 160
degree thermostat.</span></li></ol>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">So at this point
I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custom.<span> <=
/span>Other
changes could make is front air dam and block front cross member to bottom =
of
radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play out this
summer.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Results as
follows:</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Cold start with
86 degree ambient outside temperature =E2=80=93 at idle with hood closed, c=
ar in
sun.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">5 Minutes engine
temperature 174 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">9 Minutes engine
temperature 180 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">12 Minutes
engine temperature 190 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">14 Minutes
engine temperature 195 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">16 Minutes
engine temperature 200 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Run the motor at
1500 rpm=E2=80=99s for 1minute temperature drops to 196 degrees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Run the motor at
2000 rpm=E2=80=99s for another 1minute temperature drops to 194 degrees.</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Turn motor off
and in a total of 27 minutes from startup - heat soak is 208 degrees.</span=
></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">All this is
recorded from temporary mechanical temperature gauge located under
dash.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">The car
temperature at any speed is at 174 degrees regardless of the outside ambien=
t
temperature from 50=E2=80=99s to mid 90=E2=80=99s.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Whew, maybe at
last can enjoy car with a couple of things still outstanding to be able to =
drive
it out of town for any distance.<span> </span>The Tiger=E2=80=99s fir=
st major
outing was at the Sandhills Motoring Festival held in Pinehurst NC last mon=
th in
May =E2=80=93 you can get a glimpse of the cars at:<span> </span><a h=
ref=3D"https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_=
d49fdacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_d49f=
dacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html</a><span>
</span>You might have to copy and paste link into your browser.</span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Thank you all
for putting up with all my inane questions and comments over the years.&nbs=
p; I
am sure there will be more.<br></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yd=
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p2605580cyiv7361261624ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Joel
Martin</span></p>
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