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Re: [Tigers] Brakes biting

To: "'Jay'" <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes biting
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:06:53 -0400
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Jay
        Brakes are a safety system.   Check and examine every part and every 
aspect of the brake system - assume nothing.

I would not think the SS hoses are the problem but again assume nothing.

Right now my thought is that you need to rebuild the Master brake cylinder and 
or the brake booster too.

You stated that the car stops when you release the pedal - that sounds like the 
Master Cylinder piston is moving back too slowly and not releasing the brake 
pressure.   

 I once had something similar to this - the spring in the Master was half worn 
on one side so the spring force and force angle was wrong.

 Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jay via Tigers
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brakes biting

Iâ??m starting to suspect the hoses more.  There was another incident that was 
a bit different, and now that I think of it, points more to the hoses.

As I said before, as I was coming to a stop, with my foot on the brake, at the 
last second before coming to a complete stop, it seemed the brakes bit a little 
harder - like I pushed the brakes a tiny bit, even though I didnâ??t at all.  

My initial assumption was that there was a bubble in the rubber hose, 
increasing pressure.  But I discounted that since it stopped immediately when I 
lifted the pedal.  When I have heard about this before, I recall that the 
bubble kept the pressure up even after the pedal was released.  But every 
situation is different.  

This other incident was also at very low speed, just after I lifted the brakes 
and was coasting forward, I got a feeling like I was taping on the brakes 
repeatedly and the wheel was chirping.  It was very strange.  I donâ??t know 
the details to give more help on that.  

One other factor, I have braided stainless hoses, that are smaller OD and ID 
than stock rubber hoses.  


> On Apr 24, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On my drive today, I first noticed that when slowing to a stop, at the very 
> last moment before stopping, the brakes seemed to have an extra bite.  I 
> didnâ??t notice anything at speed or during braking.  Just that last moment.  
> But once I lifted, it always stopped.  Then at one point, it seemed like it 
> was biting a bit more.  Again, the second I lifted off the brakes it was fine.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> This is with stock brakes and servo.
> 
> I almost want to say that it is only one front wheel.  But Iâ??m not sure.  
> That would suggest caliper or hose.  But when those stick or bite, I donâ??t 
> know that they release the second the pressure on the pedal is released.

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