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Re: GT6/TR6 Headers

To: mah16@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: GT6/TR6 Headers
From: aj253@rgfn.epcc.Edu (Tony Robinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:23:35 MDT
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net

>
>>Bill-
>>You ask about the interchange of GT6 and TR6 headers...
>>
>>Unfortunately there is no one easy quick answer. It all depends on what year
>>of each you are working on, but I'll give it a whirl...
>>If you really have an early GT6, all of the ports are level with each other
>>in the head and nothing will interchange.
>>Any of the later GT6 cars (+ and on) have the same port placement as the late
>>TR6 (72 on). Any manifold which bolts on one of these will bolt to the other.
>>
>>The early (pre 72) TR6 motors used a different pattern on the port
>>placement and will not exchange with the GT6 line.
>>If this is not clear, check the part numbers for manifold gaskets on both
>>cars
>>
>>So much for bolting the headers to the head...Now you have to pay attention
>>to the clearance between the frame and the block.
>>It would appear that the TR6 has more clearance here as the TR6 headers are
>>usually too wide to go into the GT6. (This is not always the case as some
>>manufacturers made them thin enough to fit, but this is only hearsay on my
>>part as I have never had a set of them in my hand, nor have I seen anyone
>>with a set fitted, but I have heard rumors).
>>
>>So, to get back to the question of interchange between headers...
>>As they say on Home Improvement  "I don't think so Tim"
>>
>>                                            The Car Curmudgeon
>>                                                Nick in Nor Cal
>>
>Well, this is very interesting (thanks Nick and Tony!).
>Does anyone know of a good quality "TR6" header (preferably single pipe)
>that will fit a '72 GT6 MK3? The only headers for the GT6 I've seen are
>from "across the pond" and are beyond my budget. It seems TR6 headers are
>much more plentiful.
>And while I'm prying about GT6 exhaust systems, What is the purpose of the
>"middle" muffler? What would be the advantages/disadvantages of eliminating
>it?
>
>Thanks again,
>Bill- mah16@cornell.edu
>
>
>
>
Bill,
 The "middle" muffler, my is a Thrush glass pack, is what gives you the 
nice "throaty" sound when used with Monza or similiar exhaust systems. 
The "tips" don't have much of a muffling effect other than to look pretty.
 I just came to the realization that my headers are for an early TR6, and 
they must be quite unique because they are tuned (pipes all the same length)
Monzas.
 VB has Falcon headers for around $100. for GT6. You most likely will 
have to remove the engine compartment panels and re-route the coolant 
retun pipe from the back of the head to the water pump.
 There are a couple of schools of thought about Monza and Falcon headers.
I wondered why the pipe was so small from the muffler to the "Y" for the 
dual appearence tips. 
 The collector on my header is four inches in diameter. I capped it and 
ran a 3 inch pipe to the muffler and a 3 inch pipe to the "Y". It did 
improve the performance a small noticable amount, but the sound is deeper 
and has been mistaken for a V-8 on more than one occassion.
Hope I've hel;ped you decide to go for the headers. They look neat, sound 
good and do help performance. A great upgrade, but they are hard to keep 
clen way up under the intake manifold.
Best Regards,
Tony
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