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Re: Re; Triumph resurrection, not.

To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Re; Triumph resurrection, not.
From: "Graham Stretch" <technical@iwnet.screaming.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:38:14 -0000charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: "List Triumph" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <38BE7F6D.D96E9028@worldnet.att.net> <004801bf8460$5a289880$55eaa4d8@vafred> <38BE8ED2.2DE7BAA2@gte.net> <38BE900C.16C0EC8D@gte.net>
Hi Joe
Don't worry I think most people read what they think they see as I did but
thanks
for pointing it out, I bet that was one like mine the other day, wish you'd
proofed it before it went eh.
Graham.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>; Allen Patterson
<kormanfastbmw@worldnet.att.net>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re; Triumph resurrection, not.


>
> Oops, my fliuf is showing again.  That should read: "Motorcycles"!
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Curry wrote:
> >
> > Interestingly enough, I went down to the License Bureau yesterday to
> > license Huxley the Spit.  I had all the paperwork completed and
> > mentioned that I wanted the "Historic Vehicle" plates for it.  The clerk
> > said, "I don't think we have those for motorcyldes."
> >
> > You can figure out the gist of the remainder of the conversation!
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > Allen, I do not think 70% of the potentional buyers would have ever
heard of
> > > "Triumph", let alone know about any past problems associated with the
cars,
> > > look at the posts the last few days of people not even knowing what
kind of
> > > car they are looking at as you drive past. People today buy what they
want,
> > > when they want it, and do not base this on what happened yesterday,
SUV's
> > > also come to mind, considered a BF tank 30 years ago, with very poor
sales,
> > > and gas @ .25 per gallon, yet today with gas approaching 2.00 a
gallon,
> > > dealers can't get enough of them, money and memories are very strange
> > > companions.  "FT"
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Allen Patterson <kormanfastbmw@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re; Triumph resurrection, not.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BMW has already considered resurrecting the Triumph badge, but
promptly
> > > > shelved the idea.
> > > > 2 reasons were given:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Even close to 20 years after the last Truimph was imported, the
brand
> > > > name still is associated with poor build quality and lack of
reliability
> > > > (guess that's what happens when your last hurrah is a TR7.  No smart
> > > > comments, I had one, total POS).
> > > > The notion that you come out of the box running by introducing a new
car
> > > > with previously well-known  name wouldn't work since they would have
to
> > > > overcome the perceptions associated with this name.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Cannibalization of Z3 sales and other models.  Where would a
Triumph
> > > > fit in the current BMW product line?  They've got the 2 seat
convertible
> > > > with the Z3 (TR6, TR3-4, Spitfire), M-Coupe (GT6), etc.
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I'd like to see the name resurrected too, but in reality it's a
> > > > very slim possibility.  The best hope would likely be for BMW to
sell
> > > > off the name to a company that doesn't have the types of cars
Triumph
> > > > was noted for building.  Rover may just go away or be sold off.  The
> > > > Mini will be in BMW showrooms this fall.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Allen Patterson
> > > > (a Triumph owner lost somewhere in BMW land)
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
> >  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer
>
> --
> "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
>  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer



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