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RE: Nuts & Bolts -- complete list for restoration

To: "econrad" <econrad@teal.csn.net>
Subject: RE: Nuts & Bolts -- complete list for restoration
From: "David Moag" <moag@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:46:56 -0800charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: "Triumphs Mailing List" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Eric,

I don't think such a list exists, it didn't for my TR3. Do you have a
Factory Spare Parts manual? I've found documentation on what the Triumph
part number for screws, bolts, washers, etc... decodes as to length, TPI,
etc.. Early on in my TR3 project I went through the parts manual for some
major areas I was going to be working on, and figured out all the lengths,
and then bought boxes of them for far, far, less than Moss might. So --- if
you can get to the factory numbers for all the fasteners, then you can
figure it out. If you don't have the cross-reference from the part numbers
to the sizes I'll do a little snooping and send you the link -- it doesn't
work for every bolt, but it does for enough so you can stock up on some of
the main sizes anyway.

Good luck!

Dave Moag
62 TR3B
77 Spitfire


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of econrad
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 7:51 AM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Cc: Jim Davis
> Subject: Nuts & Bolts -- complete list for restoration
>
>
>
> Jim,
> I appreciate your comments and information.  As you, I also find that the
> Roadster Factory meets my needs far beyond the others.  I do have the TR6
> parts catalogues from TRF, and intend to look at the pages you highlighted
> in your message to see if they match what I'm requesting.  I am
> undergoing a
> major restoration, and use all suppliers parts catalogues as well as my
> copies of the Bentley and the Haynes manuals.  I also utilize advice from
> friends who have TR6's that they have restored.  I use as much information
> as possible.  In other words, I'm not doing the restoration blindly!
>
> What I'm wanting is a list of hardware (nuts, bolts, & washers) that is
> organized into a concise list - one which lists as much information about
> the hardware so I can buy these pieces in bulk as either grade 5 or grade
> 8 - I know, this is probably an upgrade to what was typically
> used.  Maybe,
> the pages in the TRF parts catalogues will provide this information - I'll
> be the first to say that I haven't read them cover to cover.
> However, based
> on my perusal of them on a regular basis, I have never come
> across a list of
> all hardware, their sizes, thread patterns, lengths, ....
>
> If this type of list isn't available, I'm willing to begin working on one.
> However, it will not be a quick process.  If such a list exists,
> please clue
> me in to it.
>
> Again, I will look at the Vol. 2, pgs. 489-492.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Conrad
> Denver, CO
> econrad@teal.csn.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Jim Davis
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:20 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Nuts & Bolts - Replacing During a Rebuild
>
>
> I've brought this up at least 20 times on this list and this will be the
> last, promise.
>         One of the most valuable tools one can obtain for a TR6
> restoration
> is
> The Roadster Factory Parts Catalogue. It lists most every nut and bolt
> that binds a TR6 and the nut/bolt part #s can be cross referenced to
> size in Volume 2, pages 489-492.
>         Why would one start an expensive and time consuming restoration
> without
> it and every other manual and parts catalogue? I almost never do
> business with Moss or Victoria British, but I get their parts catalogues
> for reference if nothing else.
>         The Roadster Factory is the best source in the US for all things
> Triumph, or for the TR6 anyway. Moss is the best source of parts for MGs
> and VB supplies some useful parts along with a lot of junk. Its that
> simple.
>         I mean, there is a company that has the best TR6 parts
> catalogue in
> the
> world and the guy that owns it has spent most if his adult life
> dedicated to supplying and manufacturing Triumph parts, primarily TR6
> parts, and some people who are doing a total TR6 restoration don't even
> bother to get the guy's catalogue which has the info they need. But they
> readily buy from an MG supplier which furnishes a TR catalogue that
> doesn't contain the info they need. Go figure.
>  Nothing personal to anyone, honest.
> Jim Davis
> Fortson, GA
> CF38690UO
> CF37325U
> econrad wrote:
> >
> > Like Jeff, I'm also thinking the same thing.  I'm in the middle
> (maybe the
> > beginning) of a resto on my 76 TR6.  As Jeff, I'm leery of
> purchasing all
> > bolts from Moss, et al.  In other words, I have mentioned to
> friends that
> I
> > sure wish there was a list of all bolts, size, type, and thread
> count, ...
> > available for my car.  It seems to me that, given the technical info
> > available from the list and from the VTR, that this list would
> exist for a
> > TR6 (and also for Jeff's TR4A).  Can anyone help with info?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric Conrad
> > Denver, CO
> > econrad@teal.csn.net
> >
> > 1976 TR6        CF52678U        (body suspended above frame,
> undercoating
> > still coming off slowly, but awaiting the complete dismantling
> of what Tom
> > Di Iulio calls a donor car - I call it a P.O.S(h_t) - see below!
> > 1971 TR6        CC??????U (does the commission number really matter?)
> It's
> > all for the parts, man!  (engine, tranny, diff, gauges, wheels,
> shocks, &
> > other odds & ends removed so far.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of john donnelly
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:45 PM
> > To: 'triumphs@autox.team.net'
> > Subject: Nuts & Bolts - Replacing During a Rebuild
> >
> > Doing a rebuild is expensive enough (the recent thread on tr4$ is pretty
> > evident) and in doing my tr4a I'm trying to be prudent where
> ever possible
> > reusing the original fasteners, if it's safe. But there's a lot of times
> > that I've found myself looking into my bolt box and not finding
> the right
> > size. I'd like to stock up and get some new fasteners, but need
> your help.
> >
> > Does anyone have a list of the most commonly used fasteners on a tr4 or
> 4a?
> > Going through the Moss or VB catalog, and trying to find the
> right bolt is
> > painful, and expensive. And the crafty people at Moss or VB
> don't give the
> > generic description, only their part number.
> >
> > If I had a standard listing, McMaster-Carr has just about every
> conceivable
> > grade 8 nut,bolt and screw you can think of, and they're half
> the price of
> > Moss. I don't want to just order a bunch of 3&1/2"x3/8 shoulder
> bolts if I
> > really will need 3&3/4"x3/8.
> >
> > Or, does anyone have a conversion chart from Moss or VB numbers to a
> generic
> > description?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > John in San Diego
> > '67 TR4A
> > '71 P1800E
>


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