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Re: [TR] TR4A trailing arm shims

To: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A trailing arm shims
From: Jack Mc <McGaheyRx@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:19:17 -0500
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Tony - 

I am also installing GoodParts CV jointed axles on a IRS TR4A at the moment and 
I found the same thing - I think there were 5 shims behind every bracket, plus 
a couple of non-original smaller shims that must have been added at some point 
for alignment. I have remounted the trailing arms with no shims (for now) 
thinking I'd let the alignment shop sort out how many should be where, but I 
have noticed the bump stop dish on the trailing arm on one side no longer lines 
up with the bump stop on the body. 
I haven't looked into that any further because I am distracted by a more 
immediate problem: 
The outer CV joint boot and boot clip are making contact with the trailing arm 
- I've never had this problem on the many TR6s I've done this to - so I 
measured and found the tunnel in the TR4A trailing to be smaller than any of 
the TR6 trailing arms I have on hand - hard to quantify how much since these 
tunnels taper, but looks like the TR4a trailing arm tunnels are a little over 
0.1 inch smaller in internal diameter. Have you encountered this? 
As an aside, there are quite a few subtle differences between the TR4a trailing 
arms and TR6 trailing arms - and the quality of casting looks better with the 
TR4 trailing arms - the quality of casting got better during the TR6 model run, 
but these TR4 arms make early TR6 trailing arms look crude by comparison. 

Cheers,
Jack Mv

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been upgrading my IRS axle to the Goodparts CV joint axles.  
> 
> As I did the second side I see that there are lots of shims under both the 
> trailing arm brackets.  It seems to me that it may be possible to remove an 
> equal number from each bracket.  I think that in this way it may be possible 
> to preserve the geometry and get a bit more bolt thread available for the 
> nuts holding the brackets.  
> 
> This will change the fore-aft and the in-out position of the trailing arm.  
> But do you think the trailing arms were adjusted to that they were perfectly 
> co-axial, and equally spaced?   I would doubt it. I would havevm thought the 
> shims were used only to adjust toe.
> 
> But then why so many shims?   I would have expected one of the two brackets 
> to have zero or 1 shim, and the other bracket would be shimmed to get the toe 
> adjusted properly??? 
> 
> -Tony
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