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Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke

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Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:04:00 +0000
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I will check that out. Thanks!
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From: Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:55:55 AM
To: Creig Houghtaling
Cc: Dave; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke

Greig,

Had a friend with Strombergs on his E-Type doing the same thing.  After all=
 the frustrations of pressure and float levels, I learned of a problem with=
 Strombergs, from a Harley-Davidson forum, that the float bowl gasket can b=
e just a hair too wide or misaligned and block the float from fully rising.=
  Trimmed the gasket, problem solved.

May not be your problem, but worth checking.

BTDT,
Bill B
TS30800L


eig555@live.com>> wrote:

Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few times =
and didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manual lev=
er to fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting out the=
 choke  (enrichment) valve. I am confused about what could be going on here=
. I have other carbs I can pull the valve and trade. But that may not be th=
e whole story.

Creig
________________________________
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM
ig555@live.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question

Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogged there is no plac=
e for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to shut off the gas f=
low.

Dave Massey



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eech@flash.net>>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question

Ditto Dave.
Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition.   PO had insta=
lled the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as soon as it w=
as turned off.  Much fiddling and head scratching before I replaced the fue=
l pump with a 2-3psi Facet and problem was solved.

Sent from my VIC-64

On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com> wrote:

Mechanical pump.


________________________________
From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM
To: creig555@live.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question

Is he running an electric fuel pump?  If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI unit or the h=
igher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?  the higher pressure may be overcoming t=
he float valves.


Dave Massey



-----Original Message-----
From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question

My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car had been running, and was=
 turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from the port below the f=
orward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I concluded the Gross jet=
 was not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed in=
to the engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves and als=
o changed both floats. After putting everything back together, I ran the ca=
r for a few minutes and turned it off. It was dripping gas out the same por=
t. Looked in the throat from the air filter side and saw a small puddle of =
gas in the lower area right in front of the venturi. As far as I know, that=
 means the gas isn't shutting off. Perhaps I didn't adjust the float correc=
tly. Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass=
 the valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve=
  (choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new fl=
oat to fully close the valve when the mold line of the float was parallel w=
ith the horizontal edge of the carb where the fuel reservoir attaches.

Am I missing anything else here?

Thanks
Creig Houghtaling

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I will check that out. Thanks! <br>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Wbeech@flash.net &lt;=
wbeech@flash.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:55:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Creig Houghtaling<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dave; triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question - about choke </font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Greig,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Had a friend with Strombergs on his E-Type doing the same thing. &nbsp=
;After all the frustrations of pressure and float levels, I learned of a pr=
oblem with Strombergs, from a Harley-Davidson forum, that the float bowl ga=
sket can be just a hair too wide or misaligned
 and block the float from fully rising. &nbsp;Trimmed the gasket, problem s=
olved. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>May not be your problem, but worth checking.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>BTDT,</div>
<div>Bill B</div>
<div>TS30800L</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:52 PM, Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:creig5=
55@live.com">creig555@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Adjusted the floats. Pulled the chokes to get started. Cranked a few t=
imes and didn't start. Figured it needed fuel pumped. So I pulled the manua=
l lever to fill the carbs. Stopped pumping when I saw gasoline squirting ou=
t the choke&nbsp; (enrichment) valve.
 I am confused about what could be going on here. I have other carbs I can =
pull the valve and trade. But that may not be the whole story.
<br>
<br>
Creig<br>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Dave &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:dave1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:30:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>; <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>
creig555@live.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.n=
et</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"4" face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
><font size=3D"4">Another possibility is if the float bowl vents are clogge=
d there is no place for the air to go and the floats will never rise up to =
shut off the gas flow.</font>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave Massey</font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@liv=
e.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&g=
t;; triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 9:14 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"AOLMsgPart_2_411a0f5b-0ccc-462d-a3bc-a34d607fef7d">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"aolReplacedBody">
<div>Ditto Dave. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div>Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition. &nbsp; PO=
 had installed the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as so=
on as it was turned off. &nbsp;Much fiddling and head scratching before I r=
eplaced the fuel pump with a 2-3psi Facet
 and problem was solved.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Sent from my VIC-64</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" rem=
ovedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b-432d-a9ae-c8b58ed22339__href=3D"mailto:creig555@liv=
e.com">creig555@live.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;back=
ground-color:#FFFFFF;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div>Mechanical pump.<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Dave &lt;<a target=
=3D"_blank" removedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b-432d-a9ae-c8b58ed22339__href=3D"mail=
to:dave1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a target=3D"_blank" removedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b-432d-a9ae-c8b58e=
d22339__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>
creig555@live.com</a>; <a target=3D"_blank" removedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b-432d=
-a9ae-c8b58ed22339__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>
triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=3D"black" size=3D"4"=
><font size=3D"4">Is he running an electric fuel pump?&nbsp; If so is it a =
2 - 3 PSI unit or the higher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?&nbsp; the higher =
pressure may be overcoming the float valves.</font>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear: both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave Massey</font><br>
<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" removedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b=
-432d-a9ae-c8b58ed22339__href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.co=
m</a>&gt;<br>
To: Triumph List &lt;<a target=3D"_blank" removedlink__aef20a8f-2d9b-432d-a=
9ae-c8b58ed22339__href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"AOLMsgPart_1.2_c425e000-65cf-4115-8c1a-67dac2ee440e">
<div class=3D"aolReplacedBody">My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After th=
e car had been running, and was turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dro=
pping from the port below the forward carb just in front of the intake mani=
fold. I concluded the Gross jet was
 not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed into t=
he engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves and also ch=
anged both floats. After putting everything back together, I ran the car fo=
r a few minutes and turned it off.
 It was dripping gas out the same port. Looked in the throat from the air f=
ilter side and saw a small puddle of gas in the lower area right in front o=
f the venturi. As far as I know, that means the gas isn't shutting off. Per=
haps I didn't adjust the float correctly.
 Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass the=
 valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve&nbs=
p; (choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new f=
loat to fully close the valve when the
 mold line of the float was parallel with the horizontal edge of the carb w=
here the fuel reservoir attaches.<br>
<br>
Am I missing anything else here? <br>
<br>
Thanks <br>
Creig Houghtaling<br>
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