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Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder

To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder
From: Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:23:22 -0700
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I went with braided hoses up front purely by accident.  A major supplier's
rubber hoses were out of stock and they offered a pair of the braided at no
additional cost to get me back on the road.  Nice guys in PA.

I was amazed at how much firmer the pedal felt (this is with DOT5).  I
still have rubber for the single line in the back which isn't all bad as in
a 'pinch' (pun intended) I can clamp off that line to deal with a rear
brake leak on the road (have had to do this twice through the years).

Geo

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> wrote:

> Hi Cliff!
>
> Did you go with the fancy braided hoses or stay with the rubber hoses? I
> am thinking about switching over to the braded ones while I am at it but
> don=E2=80=99t know if the gain is worth the expense.
>
> Dave Connitt
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:06 PM
> *To:* 'Randall' <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
>
> *Cc:* triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder
>
>
>
> I had to change all the hoses - they all leaked after I switched to DOT5.
> I'd already rebuilt the calipers and cylinders and had new brake lines  I
> suppose I shouldn't had reused the hoses.
>
>
>
> Cliff
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:29 PM -0700, "Dave Connitt" <dconnitt@fuse.net>
> wrote:
>
> Randall,
> Interesting. I have been running DOT3 in my TR4A since I got the car
> drivable (about 2 years now) and only used DOT3 because there was a big
> sticker on the side of the master cylinder telling me "USE ONLY DOT 3 BRA=
KE
> FLUID OR WARRENTY IS VOID". I was wondering how big a PIA it would be to
> flush out the DOT3 fluid and replace it with DOT5. I have read many posts
> on
> this list where people have used DOT 5 with no issues so I am considering
> changing over as I should probably replace the current fluid after 2 year=
s
> anyway.
> Dave Connitt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Randall
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:09 PM
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder
>
>
> > That was going to be my next question. About how carefully one had to
> > drain the dot 4 when installing dot 5. It sounds like I can put in my
> > fresh MC, fill it with silicone, then bleed each brake till I see
> > purple fluid.
>
> Another contested question.  My experience is as Paul said, just "bleedin=
g
> through" will not remove all of the old brake fluid from the system.
> However, I saw no ill effects from the small pockets of old fluid left
> over.
> The DOT 5 will not mix with the old fluid, and is slightly less dense, so
> you get little pockets of fluid in corners that don't get used (like the
> base of the rear slave cylinders).  The DOT 5 also surrounds it, so it
> can't
> promote corrosion (and I assume not absorb water or salt).
>
> Main disadvantage seems to be that the remaining DOT 3/4 will suck all th=
e
> purple dye out of the DOT 5.
>
> Randall
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I went with braided hoses up front purely by accident=
.=C2=A0 A major supplier&#39;s rubber hoses were out of stock and they offe=
red a pair of the braided at no additional cost to get me back on the road.=
=C2=A0 Nice guys in PA.</div><div><br></div><div>I was amazed at how much f=
irmer the pedal felt (this is with DOT5).=C2=A0 I still have rubber for the=
 single line in the back which isn&#39;t all bad as in a &#39;pinch&#39; (p=
un intended) I can clamp off that line to deal with a rear brake leak on th=
e=C2=A0road (have had to do this twice through the years).</div><div><br></=
div><div>Geo=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Dave Connitt <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net"; target=3D"_blank">dconnitt@fuse.=
net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN=
-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Hi Cliff!<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Did you go with the fancy braid=
ed hoses or stay with the rubber hoses? I am thinking about switching over =
to the braded ones while I am at it but don=E2=80=99t know if the gain is w=
orth the expense.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Dave Connit=
t<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:r=
gb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> Cliff Hansen [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:cliff_h=
ansen@outlook.com" target=3D"_blank">cliff_hansen@outlook.com</a>] <br><b>S=
ent:</b> Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> &#39;Randall&#39; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr=
.com</a>&gt;; Dave Connitt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt;</span><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><b>C=
c:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumph=
s@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder<=
u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I ha=
d to change all the hoses - they all leaked after I switched to DOT5. I&#39=
;d already rebuilt the calipers and cylinders and had new brake lines =C2=
=A0I suppose I shouldn&#39;t had reused the hoses.<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Cliff<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/o0ukef"; target=3D"_blank">Outl=
ook for iOS</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br><b=
r><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt=
">On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:29 PM -0700, &quot;Dave Connitt&quot; &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net"; target=3D"_blank">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Randall,<br=
>Interesting. I have been running DOT3 in my TR4A since I got the car<br>dr=
ivable (about 2 years now) and only used DOT3 because there was a big<br>st=
icker on the side of the master cylinder telling me &quot;USE ONLY DOT 3 BR=
AKE<br>FLUID OR WARRENTY IS VOID&quot;. I was wondering how big a PIA it wo=
uld be to<br>flush out the DOT3 fluid and replace it with DOT5. I have read=
 many posts on<br>this list where people have used DOT 5 with no issues so =
I am considering<br>changing over as I should probably replace the current =
fluid after 2 years<br>anyway.<br>Dave Connitt<br><br>-----Original Message=
-----<br>From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of=
 Randall<br>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 4:09 PM<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:t=
riumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] TR6 brake master cylinder<br><br><br>&gt; That was going to=
 be my next question. About how carefully one had to <br>&gt; drain the dot=
 4 when installing dot 5. It sounds like I can put in my <br>&gt; fresh MC,=
 fill it with silicone, then bleed each brake till I see <br>&gt; purple fl=
uid.<br><br>Another contested question.=C2=A0 My experience is as Paul said=
, just &quot;bleeding<br>through&quot; will not remove all of the old brake=
 fluid from the system.<br>However, I saw no ill effects from the small poc=
kets of old fluid left over.<br>The DOT 5 will not mix with the old fluid, =
and is slightly less dense, so<br>you get little pockets of fluid in corner=
s that don&#39;t get used (like the<br>base of the rear slave cylinders).=
=C2=A0 The DOT 5 also surrounds it, so it can&#39;t<br>promote corrosion (a=
nd I assume not absorb water or salt).<br><br>Main disadvantage seems to be=
 that the remaining DOT 3/4 will suck all the<br>purple dye out of the DOT =
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