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Subject: [TR] torque wrench question
From: pryner at outlook.com (Peter Ryner)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 15:31:29 -0000
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>From my jet engine mechanic days in the Air Force I offer the following.  You 
>don't need to use the torque wrench in the computation as it is already 
>calibrated for its length.  If you add any extension to the end of the torque 
>wrench you have to adjust for the additional arm length.  Our tech orders had 
>a formula to use which took into account the length of the extension including 
>a crowfoot.  However, if the crowfoot was used at 90 degrees to the torque 
>wrench no adjustment was required.  The calculation involved the angle and 
>length of the extension, not the diameter.  Most of the time using a 
>crowsfoot, especially for small torques there was very little difference of 
>the torque wrench setting.  Since most specs are within a range, the 
>calculated setting was still in the specified range.  You still had to do all 
>of the calculations just to make sure.  
Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of TERRY SMITH
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag at gmail.com>; Randall <tr3driver at ca.rr.com>; 
triumphs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] torque wrench question

LOL!  I'm just glad you science guys are out there!

> On August 11, 2018 at 5:51 AM Randall <tr3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Uhm, that would be why English majors subscribe to this list....
> > 
> 
> Perhaps an example would help?
> 
> Let's say you want to torque your nut to 50 ftlb, your torque wrench 
> measures 26" overall and your crowfoot extension is 4" overall.
> 
> First we need the effective length of the torque wrench.  On mine, the 
> business end is about 1" diameter, while the hand grip extends about 2"
> beyond the center of my hand.  So we subtract half of the head 
> diameter
> (0.5") and the 2" for the hand grip to get 23.5" effective length.
> 
> Now the effective length of the torque wrench plus crowfoot extension.
> Assuming both ends of the crowfoot are around 1" diameter, it would 
> extend the center by about 3", or 26.5" overall.
> 
> Divide those two numbers to get the ratio.  23.5/26.5 = .89 (rounded 
> to 2
> digits)
> 
> Multiply the desired torque by the ratio. 50 * .89 = 44.5 ftlb.  Round 
> that to two digits, and set your wrench to 45 ftlb.
> 
> Hmm, well, perhaps not.  Reminds me of an old David Crosby line: "You 
> see just below the surface of the mud, there's more mud here."
> 
> -- Randall
>

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