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The ignition timing deal is more about creating hot spots when the
engine is running. Too much advance causes pre-ignition which can cause
stuff to get hot enough to ignite the fuel. One source of that could be
a piece of the head gasket protruding into the combustion chamber.
- Tony
On 2/26/2019 10:14 AM, Wbeech@flash.net wrote:
> Same problem here with the TR3 motor in the Morgan, but not the TR3.
> Â I donâ??t see how ignition timing could affect it as it is turned off.
> Â I used to hear it was due to carbon buildup continuing to ignite
> fuel, but that doesnâ??t fly for a fresh engine.
>
> Iâ??m going to lean the mixture a little and see if that makes any
> difference. Â Till then, Daveâ??s method of easing the clutch out seems
> to be the accepted workaround.
>
> Bill
> TS30800L
>
> Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X
>
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Andrew Uprichard
>
> Assuming everything else (timing, carburation) is set, do you have an
> electric fan? My TR3 runs on if the fan is still on when I turn the
> ignition off.
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *DAVID MASSEY
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 7:34 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> First off, congratulations on your win.
>
> Secondly, do what I do. Put the car in fourth gear and let the clutch
> out as you switch off. Be sure to set the brake first. My TR6
> diesels even with the anti-run-on valve. So does the TR3.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm
> Subject: [TR] TR4 engine question
>
> Fresh TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after you turn off the
>
> key. It like it tries to keep running but with a cough and then
> stops. The
>
> TR6 has an anti-run on valve to help with that. What do I treat on a TR4
>
> motor? P.S. So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 back together stock,
>
> I won first place in the sports car group at the AACC winter national.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
> Ocala, FL
>
> 61 TR3A
>
> 62 TR4
>
> 75 TR6
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<p>The ignition timing deal is more about creating hot spots when
the engine is running. Too much advance causes pre-ignition which
can cause stuff to get hot enough to ignite the fuel. One source
of that could be a piece of the head gasket protruding into the
combustion chamber.</p>
<p>- Tony<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2019 10:14 AM, <a
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Same problem here with the TR3 motor in the Morgan, but not the
TR3. Â I donâ??t see how ignition timing could affect it as it is
turned off. Â I used to hear it was due to carbon buildup
continuing to ignite fuel, but that doesnâ??t fly for a fresh
engine. Â
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Iâ??m going to lean the mixture a little and see if that makes
any difference. Â Till then, Daveâ??s method of easing the clutch
out seems to be the accepted workaround. Â </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill</div>
<div>TS30800L<br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my DynaTAC
8000X</div>
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On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Andrew Uprichard <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Assuming
everything else (timing, carburation) is set, do you
have an electric fan? My TR3 runs on if the fan is
still on when I turn the ignition off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jackson,
Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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Triumphs [<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 26, 2019 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:trguy75@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">trguy75@gmail.com</a>; <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 engine
question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">First
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Secondly,
do what I do. Put the car in fourth gear and let the
clutch out as you switch off. Be sure to set the
brake first. My TR6 diesels even with the anti-run-on
valve. So does the TR3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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</span><span
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</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Message-----<br>
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To: 'triumphs' <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 9:41 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR4 engine question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Fresh
TR4 engine that does that "dieseling" thing after
you turn off the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">key.Â
It like it tries to keep running but with a cough
and then stops. The<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">TR6
has an anti-run on valve to help with that. What do
I treat on a TR4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">motor?Â
P.S. So proud that after 8 years putting my 4 back
together stock,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I
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winter national. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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