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Re: [TR] removing my head

To: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] removing my head
From: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 20:11:32 -0500
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Paul,
If you have removed all eight intake/exhaust manifold nuts, along with disco=
nnecting the choke cable/fuel line/throttle linkage, you should be able to g=
ive it a good wiggle and pull it back out of the way.  Pick it up and set it=
 aside, leave the exhaust manifold just pulled back a little from the head. =
=20

Now, when I have all the stud nuts off I just use a very large screwdriver o=
r tyre tool between the water inlet at the front and the water pump to break=
 the seal and lift the head off.  If you don=E2=80=99t have all the rigging t=
o lift it that high, ask a friend to help.  Have never used the rope trick. =
=20
Bill=20

Sent from my IBM 8088

On Sep 2, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:

 I first loosened The manifold nuts, and then loosen the head nuts and that w=
as the end of the first day. Although these nuts have  been loosened  now,  n=
othing has broken loose from its original tightness.  I tapped on the intake=
 manifold and then  freaked out  that it might break the cylinder loose and I=
 certainly don=E2=80=99t want to do that so I quit Tapping. I also wondered i=
f I had to take the rocker  arm out first?  So far, nothing has broken loose=
 from its original locked  position.=20

> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 8:33 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.n=
et> wrote:
> I think the concern was to minimize the possibility of the cylinder liners=
 being dislodged.
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> Alex Thomson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James=
 Henningsen
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 8:15 PM
> To: Tom Walling
> Cc: Triumph list Team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] removing my head
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> That=E2=80=99s my favorite.  Jim Henningsen=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 2, 2019, at 8:04 PM, Tom Walling <pdqtr6@comcast.net> wrote:
> >=20
> > I am amazed that this thread has gone this far without anyone mentioning=
 "The Rope Trick"!=20
> >=20
> > Stuff a length of rope into one of the cylinders (one near the bottom of=
 its rotation) until the cylinder is full of rope. Then use the starter moto=
r to break the head gasket seal and lift the head off the block. No need for=
 cranes, pulleys, explosives, or a Sky-hook.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >> On September 2, 2019 at 12:20 PM "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net> w=
rote:
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Paul,
> >> That sounds more like the instructions for engine removal, not just the=
 head.  You pull straight up to remove the head so as not to bind on the stu=
ds. =20
> >> Bill B
> >>=20
> >> Sent from my IBM 8088
> >>=20
> >> On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>=20
> >> why does the online manual tend to  say the engine needs to be kinda ti=
lting backwards?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Paul,<div>If you have removed all eight int=
ake/exhaust manifold nuts, along with disconnecting the choke cable/fuel lin=
e/throttle linkage, you should be able to give it a good wiggle and pull it b=
ack out of the way. &nbsp;Pick it up and set it aside, leave the exhaust man=
ifold just pulled back a little from the head. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Now, when I have all the stud nuts off I just use a very large screwdrive=
r or tyre tool between the water inlet at the front and the water pump to br=
eak the seal and lift the head off. &nbsp;If you don=E2=80=99t have all the r=
igging to lift it that high, ask a friend to help. &nbsp;Have never used the=
 rope trick. &nbsp;</div><div>Bill&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatur=
e" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my IBM 8088</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 2, 201=
9, at 7:54 PM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com";>dorpaul=
1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"au=
to">&nbsp;I first loosened The manifold nuts, and then loosen the head nuts a=
nd that was the end of the first day. Although these nuts have &nbsp;been lo=
osened &nbsp;now, &nbsp;nothing has broken loose from its original tightness=
.&nbsp; I tapped on the intake manifold and then &nbsp;freaked&nbsp;out &nbs=
p;that it might break the cylinder loose and I certainly don=E2=80=99t want t=
o do that so I quit Tapping. I also wondered if I had to take the rocker &nb=
sp;arm out first?&nbsp; So far, nothing has broken loose from its original l=
ocked &nbsp;position.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 8:33 PM Alex &am=
p; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net";>aljlthomson@=
charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think the c=
oncern was to minimize the possibility of the cylinder liners being dislodge=
d.<br>
<br>
Alex Thomson<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of James Henn=
ingsen<br>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2019 8:15 PM<br>
To: Tom Walling<br>
Cc: Triumph list <a href=3D"http://Team.net";>Team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] removing my head<br>
<br>
That=E2=80=99s my favorite.&nbsp; Jim Henningsen <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Sep 2, 2019, at 8:04 PM, Tom Walling &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pdqtr6@co=
mcast.net" target=3D"_blank">pdqtr6@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am amazed that this thread has gone this far without anyone mentionin=
g "The Rope Trick"! <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Stuff a length of rope into one of the cylinders (one near the bottom o=
f its rotation) until the cylinder is full of rope. Then use the starter mot=
or to break the head gasket seal and lift the head off the block. No need fo=
r cranes, pulleys, explosives, or a Sky-hook. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On September 2, 2019 at 12:20 PM "<a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">Wbeech@flash.net</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flas=
h.net" target=3D"_blank">wbeech@flash.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Paul,<br>
&gt;&gt; That sounds more like the instructions for engine removal, not just=
 the head.&nbsp; You pull straight up to remove the head so as not to bind o=
n the studs.&nbsp; <br>
&gt;&gt; Bill B<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Sent from my IBM 8088<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Sep 2, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorp=
aul1@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dorpaul1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; why does the online manual tend to&nbsp; say the engine needs to be=
 kinda tilting backwards?<br>
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