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Re: [TR] weber carbs

To: mmarr@albiontechnical.com, mark@bradakis.com
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 17:37:24 +0000 (UTC)
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 Well, yes, they would.=C2=A0 But they cost more.
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From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
To: Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

Apparently, they put this exact set-up on Nissan 240, 260, and 280Zs, too. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0
https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/78940-dual-weber-3236-dgv-downdrafts-verse=
-su-carbs/
Wouldn=E2=80=99t DCOEs be more efficient, from an airflow viewpoint, in tha=
t they are horizontal, vs the downdraft DGV?
Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2020, at 09:52, Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:


Well, having written what I wrote, I did a little research and found that s=
omeone is actually offering a dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. =C2=A0So may=
be it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I thought. I would think this would be a =
lot of carb for this engine, however.
https://www.amazon.com/TRIUMPH-DUAL-WEBER-CONVERSION-P28-010/dp/B01N5QPJC6
Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:


I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these part=
icular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings o=
nly one choke (the smaller one) is in use. =C2=A0The second choke opens onl=
y when the throttle is opened wide. =C2=A0I believe this style of Weber was=
 developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal dri=
ving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the e=
ngine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it woul=
d be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I kn=
ow very little about Weber carbs...

Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065

Sent from my iPad


On Feb 5, 2020, at 02:23, Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com> wrote:






On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:









I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it be a 32-36 DGV?
















Yep.





mjb.








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<div> <font size=3D"3">Well, yes, they would.&nbsp; But they cost more.</fo=
nt><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Marr &lt;mmarr@albiontechnical.com&gt;<br>
To: Mark J Bradakis &lt;mark@bradakis.com&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 9:58 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs<br>
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Apparently, they put this exact set-up on Nissan 240, 260, and 280Zs, too. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;

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=3D"https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/78940-dual-weber-3236-dgv-downdrafts-v=
erse-su-carbs/">https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/78940-dual-weber-3236-dgv-=
downdrafts-verse-su-carbs/</a></div>


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<div>Wouldn=E2=80=99t DCOEs be more efficient, from an airflow viewpoint, i=
n that they are horizontal, vs the downdraft DGV?</div>


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On Feb 5, 2020, at 09:52, Michael Marr &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com";>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, having written what I wrote, I did a little research=
 and found that someone is actually offering a dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a =
TR7. &nbsp;So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I thought. I would think=
 this would be a lot of carb for this engine, however.

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On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com";>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>&g=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I =
believe that these particular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at nor=
mal throttle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in use. &nbsp;The=
 second choke opens only when the throttle is opened
 wide. &nbsp;I believe this style of Weber was developed to give cars the e=
conomy of a single choke carb under normal driving conditions, with the abi=
lity to greatly increase mixture flow to the engine when additional power w=
as needed. As such, I would think that
 it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up fro=
nt, I know very little about Weber carbs...</span><br clear=3D"none">
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<span>Mike</span><br clear=3D"none">
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lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:mark@bra=
dakis.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com";>mark@bradaki=
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:</span><br cl=
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it b=
e a 32-36 DGV?</span><br clear=3D"none">
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Yep.</span><br clear=3D"none">
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