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Carburetors are not trivial.=C2=A0 The fuel/air ratio controls are subtle =
and subject to many outside variables such as temperature.=C2=A0 The A/F ra=
tion needed at a given air flow will be different depending on engine speed=
vs throttle position so adjustments are, at best, a compromise.=C2=A0=20
The lads in Coventry spend many, many hours setting up an optimum compromis=
e and I see no sense in tossing all that work in the bin unless you have ma=
de really significant changes to the engine (cam, compression, porting, etc=
)
I agree.=C2=A0 I'll stick with the SU's.
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Dave=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>; Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs
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34WordSection1 {} -->Here=E2=80=99s an interesting article on various ca=
rb choices for the BMC B Series engine, which I think would be fairly analo=
gous to the TR2 through TR4 engines.=C2=A0 It covers the 32/36 DGV, the 45D=
COE, and the variations on the H4 and H6 SUs. =C2=A0 http://www.mgbmga.com=
/tech/mgb19.htm =C2=A0 I think I will keep my SUs =F0=9F=98=8A =C2=A0 Mik=
e =C2=A0 Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng. Albion Technical Services W5918 Hackb=
arth Rd Fort Atkinson, WI 53538 =C2=A0 Cell:=C2=A0 630-202-0065 Email:=C2=
=A0 mmarr@albiontechnical.com =C2=A0 From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:41 AM
To: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>; Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradaki=
s.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs =C2=A0 Yes,=C2=A0 for a stock engine.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0My tr4 is waaay not stock=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -------- Original message ---=
----- From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> Date: 2/5/20 9:52 AM (=
GMT-06:00) To: Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team=
.net Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs =C2=A0 Well, having written what I wr=
ote, I did a little research and found that someone is actually offering a =
dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. =C2=A0So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do t=
han I thought. I would think this would be a lot of carb for this engine, h=
owever. =C2=A0 https://www.amazon.com/TRIUMPH-DUAL-WEBER-CONVERSION-P28-0=
10/dp/B01N5QPJC6 =C2=A0 Mike Michael Marr =C2=A0 Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-00=
65 =C2=A0 Sent from my iPad=20
On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wrote:=
=20
I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these part=
icular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings o=
nly one choke (the smaller one) is in use. =C2=A0The second choke opens onl=
y when the throttle is opened wide. =C2=A0I believe this style of Weber was=
developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal dri=
ving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the e=
ngine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it woul=
d be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I kn=
ow very little about Weber carbs...
Mike
Michael Marr
Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
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=C2=A0=20
On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:=20
=C2=A0=20
I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it be a 32-36 DGV?=20
=C2=A0=20
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=C2=A0=20
Yep.=20
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mjb.=20
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Carburetors are not trivial. The fuel/air rati=
o controls are subtle and subject to many outside variables such as tempera=
ture. The A/F ration needed at a given air flow will be different dep=
ending on engine speed vs throttle position so adjustments are, at best, a =
compromise. <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">The lads in Coventry spend many, many hours setting u=
p an optimum compromise and I see no sense in tossing all that work in the =
bin unless you have made really significant changes to the engine (cam, com=
pression, porting, etc)</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">I agree. I'll stick with the SU's.</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com><br>
To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>; Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>=
;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 2:05 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Here=E2=80=99s an interesting article=
on various carb choices for the BMC B Series engine, which I think would b=
e fairly analogous to the TR2 through TR4 engines. It covers the 32/3=
6 DGV, the 45DCOE, and the variations on the H4 and H6 SUs.</div>
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=20
<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mgbmga.com/tech/mgb19.htm";>http://www.mgbmga=
.com/tech/mgb19.htm</a></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">I think I will keep my SUs <span styl=
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Mike</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.</div>
=20
<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Albion Technical Services</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">W5918 Hackbarth Rd</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Fort Atkinson, WI 53538</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"> </div>
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m</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dave <dave@ranteer.co=
m> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>; Mark J Bradakis =
<mark@bradakis.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] weber carbs</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Yes, for a stock engine. =
My tr4 is waaay not stock </div>
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chael Marr <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:mmarr@albio=
ntechnical.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"=
>mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>>
</span></div>
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5/20 9:52 AM (GMT-06:00)=20
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J Bradakis <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:mark@brada=
kis.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com";>mark@bradakis.=
com</a>>
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el=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; targe=
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Well, having written what I wrote, I =
did a little research and found that someone is actually offering a dual 32=
/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I t=
hought. I would think this would be a lot of carb for this engine,
however. </div>
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6&d=3DDwMGaQ&c=3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=
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On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:mmarr@albiontechnical.com">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Webe=
r carbs, but I believe that these particular carbs are progressive choke - =
that is, at normal throttle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in=
use. The second choke opens only when the throttle is opened
wide. I believe this style of Weber was developed to give cars the e=
conomy of a single choke carb under normal driving conditions, with the abi=
lity to greatly increase mixture flow to the engine when additional power w=
as needed. As such, I would think that
it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up fro=
nt, I know very little about Weber carbs...<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
Michael Marr<br>
<br>
Mobile: 630-202-0065<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
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akis <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com";>mark@bradakis.com</a>=
> wrote:</div>
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