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To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>, Triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, used on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)
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I have a 72 and cannot find any indication that a second canister was=20
ever mounted.

On 9/1/2020 4:45 PM, Sujit Roy wrote:
> I think the 2 canister versions were for the '72 model Stag and not=20
> many came to the US because=C2=A0of strikes at the factory ( That's wha=
t=20
> someone said)
> The 2 version one is illustrated in the Stag Parts Book.
> DIdn't all Triumph=C2=A0come with some sticker saying California compli=
ance=20
> for emissions=C2=A0or something like that?
> Sujit
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:24 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com=20
>
>     Could be.=C2=A0 The TR7 and TR8 both have two canisters but that wa=
s
>     later on in the decade as emissions regulations tightened more and
>     more.
>
>     Dave
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com
>     To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com
>     Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 7:08 am
>     Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to
>     that, used on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)
>
>     Could it be that the California cars had two canisters?
>
>     On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:50 AM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com
>
>         I think but am not sure that the '71 Stag originally came with
>         a canister with 2 ports. But unfortunately, know one has
>         confirmed. In some of the manuals and parts books, there are
>         illustrations of the Stag having 2 2-port canisters.
>         Stag no1 has a carburetor=C2=A0swap to a later Mk2 set. The Mk2=
 2
>         Stag has a 3-port canister. The ports on this type=C2=A0are
>         vertical. I was able to find=C2=A0a 3 port canister from a
>         junkyard. It came out of an MGB. THis canister didn't have a
>         restrictor.
>         Sujit
>
>         On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:03 AM DAVID MASSEY
>
>             Interesting.=C2=A0 The early TR6 (without Anti-Run-On valve=
)
>             didn't have this restrictor.=C2=A0 Nor did it have the thir=
d
>             port for the hoses that go to the top of the float
>             chambers. These were added to support the Anti-Run-On
>             valve.=C2=A0 But if the Stag doesn't have the Anti-Run-On v=
alve
>             why did they use this canister? I guess they used what was
>             on the shelf at the time which is the part used on the TR6
>             at the time.
>
>             Dave
>
>
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com
>             Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net
>             Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2020 9:52 pm
>             Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs
>             similar to that, used on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)
>
>             Thanks Edward. Yes the middle one to the valve cover.
>             Small piece of plastic with a small hole in it.
>
>             On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 11:44 AM Q <HDRider570@att.net
>
>                 There is a flow reducer bushing placed into one of the
>                 canister ports
>                 that is often missing.?? I don't remember which port
>                 but it is shown of
>                 the parts diagram.
>
>
>                 Edward Hamer
>
>                 Petaluma CA
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    <p>I have a 72 and cannot find any indication that a second canister
      was ever mounted.<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/1/2020 4:45 PM, Sujit Roy wrote:<=
br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:CANLCLaGfDZ4kOd_2fWSc6esb9q_mQuFLHUZdPB4ej5dPMN1WQg@mail.gmai=
l.com">
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TF-8">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">I think the 2 canister versions were for the '72
        model Stag and not many came to the US because=C2=A0of strikes at=
 the
        factory ( That's what someone said)=C2=A0
        <div>The 2 version one is illustrated in the Stag Parts Book.=C2=A0=
</div>
        <div>DIdn't all Triumph=C2=A0come with some sticker saying Califo=
rnia
          compliance for emissions=C2=A0or something like that?</div>
        <div>Sujit</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:24=
 AM
          DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";
            moz-do-not-send=3D"true">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=

          <div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"=
>
            <div> <font size=3D"3">Could be.=C2=A0 The TR7 and TR8 both h=
ave
                two canisters but that was later on in the decade as
                emissions regulations tightened more and more.</font><br>=

            </div>
            <div> <br>
            </div>
            <div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <div> <br>
            </div>
            <div> <br>
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            <div
              style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:b=
lack">-----Original
              Message-----<br>
              From: Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a
                href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"
                moz-do-not-send=3D"true">fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              To: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";
                target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">triumphstag@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;;
              Triumphs (<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";
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              Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 7:08 am<br>
              Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs
              similar to that, used on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)<br>
              <br>
              <div id=3D"gmail-m_-179250198908086916yiv9613482189">
                <div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">Could it be that the California cars
                    had two canisters?</div>
                  <br clear=3D"none">
                  <div>
                    <div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:50 AM
                      Sujit Roy &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"
                        href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";
                        target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">triump=
hstag@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
                      0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">I think but am not sure that the
                        '71 Stag originally came with a canister with 2
                        ports. But unfortunately, know one has
                        confirmed. In some of the manuals and parts
                        books, there are illustrations of the Stag
                        having 2 2-port canisters.
                        <div>Stag no1 has a carburetor=C2=A0swap to a lat=
er
                          Mk2 set. The Mk2 2 Stag has a 3-port canister.
                          The ports on this type=C2=A0are vertical. I was=

                          able to find=C2=A0a 3 port canister from a
                          junkyard. It came out of an MGB. THis canister
                          didn't have a restrictor.</div>
                        <div>Sujit</div>
                      </div>
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div>
                        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:03 AM
                          DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow"
                            shape=3D"rect"
                            href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";
                            target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">da=
ve1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
                          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                          <div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt
                            Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
                            <div> <font size=3D"3">Interesting.=C2=A0 The=

                                early TR6 (without Anti-Run-On valve)
                                didn't have this restrictor.=C2=A0 Nor di=
d it
                                have the third port for the hoses that
                                go to the top of the float chambers.=C2=A0=

                                These were added to support the </font><f=
ont
                                size=3D"3">Anti-Run-On valve.=C2=A0 But i=
f the
                                Stag doesn't have the </font><font
                                size=3D"3"><font size=3D"3">Anti-Run-On
                                  valve why did they use this canister?=C2=
=A0
                                  I guess they used what was on the
                                  shelf at the time which is the part
                                  used on the TR6 at the time.<br
                                    clear=3D"none">
                                </font></font></div>
                            <div> <br clear=3D"none">
                            </div>
                            <div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Da=
ve
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                              From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow"
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                              Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2020 9:52 pm<br
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                              Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister
                              for Triumphs similar to that, used on a
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                                  <div>Thanks Edward. Yes the middle one
                                    to the valve cover. Small piece of
                                    plastic with a small hole in it.=C2=A0=
</div>
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                                      <div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Aug 27,
                                        2020, 11:44 AM Q &lt;<a
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                                        is a flow reducer bushing placed
                                        into one of the canister ports <b=
r
                                          clear=3D"none">
                                        that is often missing.?? I don't
                                        remember which port but it is
                                        shown of <br clear=3D"none">
                                        the parts diagram.<br
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                                        <br clear=3D"none">
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