[JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE
Jamie - JONAT
jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Apr 18 21:35:02 2003
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Gregory said:
But we here have to know dates from the Seattle sector fairly soon.
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hint, hint ...
Actually I'm pretty close to having just that information. One slight =
problem is that I do not have an Oregon person to link up with yet, so I =
do not know exactly when they will be turning the "bunch" over to me. =
So in lieu of waiting, I'm planning on routing out the Oregon coast for =
the run. I still would like to know if we have someone in Northern =
California though to hook up with at that point. If not, once I get the =
routing through Oregon and Washington done, the person between Ron and =
Oregon will be pretty locked in on the time available for them to run =
the route and places to see.
Sorry about that but we must move forward, right?
Michael? You and Ron have been talking right? Do you know which day =
you are figuring on being in the San Francisco end of your side trip?
Or Ron? Do you have a day selected for when you are planning to be at =
the most Northern end of your Sector?
Jamie Duffey
JONAT Executive Committee
http://www.jonat.org/
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dr Gregory Andrachuk=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE
Bob: thanks for the clarification, and I would just like to point out =
that the Vancouver section *must* coincide with the Van Dusen show on =
Saturday the 22 of May; cars will have to be IN Vancouver the night =
before, or very close by to be on the field before 10 AM. In addition =
this is the Victoria Day weekend in Canada, so the entry to Vancouver =
should be done BY Friday (Friday evening will be a worse than usual =
traffic period). Monday the 24th is actually Victoria Day (ie, a =
remembrance of Queen Victoria's birthday), but we should be on our way =
to Penticton by then, and there won't be any real problem.
But we here have to know dates from the Seattle sector fairly =
soon.
Gregory
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE
Gregory
The gruelling, up to the minute schedule, is set by the computer and =
is a little retentive. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!). It =
may be gruelling, but I'll leave you and your team to de-gruelize it - =
keep in mind it's only a starting point for discussion.
On the schedule, there is three days for sure in your sector. You =
will see the pink days on the itinerary at
http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf
are unspoken for days. I have left in as a float in case any Sector =
upstream of you (or your Sector itself for that matter) needs them. My =
pink note might not be very clear, but the intent is if anyone upstream =
needs them, they would be given the extra day, and that means one less =
pink day in your area on the itinerary.
Right now we have two points on the Tour that are linking with =
pre-planned events. One in your Sector, and one in Phoenix. This means =
we have to be quite disciplined in our time per Sector scheduling. You =
can see that it is therefore important that everyone needs to have in =
place the number of days to cross their sector in place soon, so =
everyone downstream of them knows the actual dates of the Tour in their =
area.=20
I hope this is a little more clear (as mud I suppose!). I guess =
what I need to stress is that all Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and =
also the times to traverse the Sectors need to be set in the not to =
distant future.
Bob England
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: April 17, 2003 6:46 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Cc: Doug Ingram; David and Barbara Cooke; Roy Gill
Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE
Bob: regarding the Victoria-Vancouver segment: the routing is =
fine, but the times and schedule present a grueling, cruel and unusual =
punishment.
It is my understanding that the participants would have =
several days in this area, from the 16th of May to the 22nd (for the Van =
Dusen show). Furthermore, the actual directions given within the cities =
are bizarre and will have to be changed. So: the route is fine, but we =
are working here under the assumption that there will be a few days at =
least in this area. It is not possible, for example, to leave Whistler =
in the morning and to be on the Van Dusen field in time for the show. =
People must be in Vancouver the night before. If the timing is not the =
issue right now, but only the route, then the general route is fine. We =
have been working on optional daytrips around this area (well worth =
doing: the wine country, over to the wild Pacific at Tofino, etc). No =
one is going to want to drive day after day. Comment?
Gregory
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE
Hello guys !
Lest you relax too much this long weekend, perhaps I could ask a =
favour (or two).
I would like you all to check out the route map for your sector =
at
http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm
and update me with your comments by Saturday or Sunday.
If you don't have a map there, please get me at least a =
preliminary route.
If you do have a map there, please update me with your comments =
and/or route changes ("No changes" is an acceptable comment).
I would like to get your comments by Saturday or Sunday. Either =
send your comments through this list, or to me directly at =
engl@jonat.org.
If you can't get something together by then, please just let me =
know.
-- AND THERE's MORE ---
Perhaps also you can update me on the planning you have done, =
any committee setups, etc.
As a final request, if anyone is planning on attending the =
Vandusen All British Field Meet in Vancouver next month, perhaps we =
could get together for brief introduction and discussions (over =
breakfast / lunch / dinner / or a pint). If you are planning on =
attending, please let me know.
Bob England
www.jonat.org
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gregory said:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3>But we here have to know dates from the =
Seattle=20
sector fairly soon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>- - - - - - - - - - - - -</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hint, hint ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Actually I'm pretty close to having =
just that=20
information. One slight problem is that I do not have an Oregon =
person to=20
link up with yet, so I do not know exactly when they will be turning the =
"bunch"=20
over to me. So in lieu of waiting, I'm planning on routing out the =
Oregon=20
coast for the run. I still would like to know if we have someone =
in=20
Northern California though to hook up with at that point. If not, =
once I=20
get the routing through Oregon and Washington done, the person between =
Ron and=20
Oregon will be pretty locked in on the time available for them to run =
the route=20
and places to see.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry about that but we must move =
forward,=20
right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael? You and Ron have been =
talking=20
right? Do you know which day you are figuring on being in the San=20
Francisco end of your side trip?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Or Ron? Do you have a day =
selected for when=20
you are planning to be at the most Northern end of your =
Sector?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jamie Duffey<BR>JONAT Executive Committee<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/">http://www.jonat.org/</A><BR></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dv12-vdp@shaw.ca href=3D"mailto:v12-vdp@shaw.ca">Dr Gregory=20
Andrachuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 =
9:01=20
AM</DIV>
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SECTOR=20
COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob: thanks for the clarification, =
and I would=20
just like to point out that the Vancouver section *must* coincide with =
the Van=20
Dusen show on Saturday the 22 of May; cars will have to be IN =
Vancouver the=20
night before, or very close by to be on the field before 10 AM. In =
addition=20
this is the Victoria Day weekend in Canada, so the entry to Vancouver =
should=20
be done BY Friday (Friday evening will be a worse than usual traffic =
period).=20
Monday the 24th is actually Victoria Day (ie, a remembrance of Queen=20
Victoria's birthday), but we should be on our way to Penticton by =
then, and=20
there won't be any real problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <FONT size=3D4> But =
we here have=20
to know dates from the Seattle sector fairly soon.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
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Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@jonat.org href=3D"mailto:engl@jonat.org">Bob</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 =
7:12=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] JONAT =
SECTOR=20
COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2>Gregory</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>The gruelling, =
up to the=20
minute schedule, is set by the computer and is a little =
retentive. =20
(That's my story and I'm sticking to it!). It may be =
gruelling, but=20
I'll leave you and your team to de-gruelize it - keep in mind it's =
only a=20
starting point for discussion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>On the =
schedule, there is=20
three days for sure in your sector. You will see the pink days =
on the=20
itinerary at</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf">http://jonat.org/bob/JO=
NAT_Itinerary.pdf</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>are unspoken =
for=20
days. I have left in as a float in case any Sector upstream of =
you (or=20
your Sector itself for that matter) needs them. My pink note =
might not=20
be very clear, but the intent is if anyone upstream needs them, they =
would=20
be given the extra day, and that means one less pink day in your =
area on the=20
itinerary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>Right now we =
have two=20
points on the Tour that are linking with pre-planned events. =
One in=20
your Sector, and one in Phoenix. This means we have to be =
quite=20
disciplined in our time per Sector scheduling. =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>You can see that it is =
therefore=20
important that everyone needs to have in place the number of =
days to=20
cross their sector in place soon, so everyone downstream of them =
knows the=20
actual dates of the Tour in their area. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>I hope this is =
a little=20
more clear (as mud I suppose!). I guess what I need to stress =
is that=20
all Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and also the times to =
traverse the=20
Sectors need to be set in the not to distant =
future.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>Bob=20
England</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf=20
Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> April 17, 2003 6:46=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> Doug Ingram; =
David and=20
Barbara Cooke; Roy Gill<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] JONAT =
SECTOR=20
COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob: regarding the =
Victoria-Vancouver=20
segment: the routing is fine, but the times and schedule present a =
grueling, cruel and unusual punishment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> It is my =
understanding that the participants would have several days in =
this area,=20
from the 16th of May to the 22nd (for the Van Dusen show). =
Furthermore,=20
the actual directions given within the cities are bizarre and will =
have to=20
be changed. So: the route is fine, but we are working here under =
the=20
assumption that there will be a few days at least in this area. It =
is not=20
possible, for example, to leave Whistler in the morning and to be =
on the=20
Van Dusen field in time for the show. People must be in Vancouver =
the=20
night before. If the timing is not the issue right now, but only =
the=20
route, then the general route is fine. We have been working on =
optional=20
daytrips around this area (well worth doing: the wine country, =
over to the=20
wild Pacific at Tofino, etc). No one is going to want to drive day =
after=20
day. Comment?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
=20
=20
=20
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@jonat.org href=3D"mailto:engl@jonat.org">Bob</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, =
2003 5:05=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] JONAT =
SECTOR=20
COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Hello guys =
!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Lest you relax too much this =
long weekend,=20
perhaps I could ask a favour (or =
two).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2> I would like you all to =
check out=20
the route map for your sector at</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm">http://jonat.org/bob/JO=
NAT_Maps-Main.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003>and update =
me with your=20
comments by Saturday or Sunday.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you don't have a map there, =
please get=20
me at least a preliminary route.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you do have a map there, =
please update=20
me with your comments and/or route changes ("No changes" is an=20
acceptable comment).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>I would like to get your =
comments by=20
Saturday or Sunday. Either send your comments through this =
list,=20
or to me directly at <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:engl@jonat.org">engl@jonat.org</A>.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you can't get something =
together by=20
then, please just let me know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>-- AND THERE's MORE=20
---</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Perhaps also you can update me =
on the=20
planning you have done, any committee setups,=20
etc.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D445115223-17042003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>As a final request, if anyone =
is planning=20
on attending the Vandusen All British Field Meet in Vancouver =
next=20
month, perhaps we could get together for brief introduction =
and=20
discussions (over breakfast / lunch / dinner / or a pint). =
If you=20
are planning on attending, please let me=20
know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Bob =
England</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><A=20
=
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