[JONAT] Tour Security
Hudson Marvel
jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Nov 14 13:12:02 2003
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In regards to security and liability, has anyone checked into our liability
as organizers if a non-participant is injured or their car damaged by a
participant during the tour. Forgive me if I am repeating a concern that has
already been addressed.
Hudson
11/14/03 2:31 PM, Jerry Mouton at jerry@moutons.org wrote:
What's everybody's take on security at tour stops?
Reading the website again, I see we guarantee some level of security
on the tour. Given that each participant selects their own hotel and
restaurant,
I don't see much hope of satisfying that guarantee! We don't get additional
security at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited Open House, we just let
everyone deal with their own -- the Jaguars in the hotel lot are not
molested.
Insurance covers losses.
I can see some questionable sites -- maybe San Francisco in my case -- could
require more. What will you all do, hire guards? What is our liability in
case
of loss by participants? Should we set up an emergency aid team for the
event? This will all cost money. I was hoping for a tour of many people
going
on a long drive -- on their own, but together.
Did we discuss this before? I forget.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca>
To: Hudson Marvel <mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com>
Cc: JONAT MailList <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: [JONAT] RE: Hello JONAT
Hello Hudson !
Regarding the numbers at Tour start and end, there was a bit of discussion
on this in the past day or so. Numbers I will expect will be reflected
mostly in local participation, but I also think the start and end of Tour
events will attract quite a few extra provided we get our publicity machine
pumped up. Exact numbers ... tough to say at this point.
Looking at the Festival of Exotic Cars link, it looks like they are planning
to have Jaguar as the featured marque in 2005, but do not have a marque for
2004. Any chance of getting them to move that up to 2004 as a tie in to our
event?
I'll update the route maps on the webpage this weekend per your note. Any
thoughts on end-of-tour route yet?
I've been thinking about "The Tour Torch" since we met. Maybe we can hit up
Jaguar North America for one of those six foot leapers they have in front of
their dealerships ;o) ... well maybe not. But they might have something a
tad smaller we can use. I think we're building up to a formal contact with
them soon, so this could go on the agenda. I'm posting this note to the
JONAT list (hope you don't mind), so perhaps there are other ideas out there
for a "Torch"
I look forward to your comments on the press release.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org <http://www.jonat.org/>
-----Original Message-----
From: Hudson Marvel [mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com]
Sent: November 13, 2002 9:42 AM
To: Bob England
Subject: Hello JONAT
Hello Bob,
I am so sorry that I have been out of touch that last few weeks. Have been
keeping up with the email conversations and want to take time to bring you
up to date.
PRESS RELEASE
Got the press release and have turned it over to my agencies PR department.
I will forward their draft to you by the middle of next week.
TOUR START
Participants that know or are thinking of they of coming to Florida for the
start of the tour contact me. I am still planning to coordinate the start to
the tour with the Festival of Exotic Cars, http://www.tscevents.com/ in Mt.
Dora Florida, which is about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow the link for a
background on the event and accommodations.
ROUTE
Bill Borrusch has driven the Route from Central Florida up to Pensacola. At
this time we are recommending that the tour take highway 441 out of Mt. Dora
till it intersects highway 44 in Leesburg. Continue east on 44 till
intersecting highway 19/98 at Crystal River. Head North on 19/98, at
Tennille the highway becomes 19/27 and takes you right into Tallahassee.
According to MapQuest the distance will be approx 233 miles. From
Tallahassee I recommend taking interstate 10 to Pensacola, though you do
have the option of taking highway 20. Do not recommend getting near the
beach, traffic is very heavy that time of year.
TOUR END
Again if I can get an estimate of those that are planning to be at the tour
end, it will help in finding a location.
THE TOURCH
Does anybody out there have a spare Leaper or Growler that can be used in
the construction of the touch, if so please contact me and I will send you
my address. I will take care of the cost of the torch construction at this
end.
That is all I have at this time.
Hudson
86 XJS
95 XJ6
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In regards to security and liability, has anyone checked into our liability=
as organizers if a non-participant is injured or their car damaged by a par=
ticipant during the tour. Forgive me if I am repeating a concern that has al=
ready been addressed.<BR>
<BR>
Hudson<BR>
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11/14/03 2:31 PM, Jerry Mouton at jerry@moutons.org wrote:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2">What's everybody's take on security at tour stop=
s?<BR>
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<FONT SIZE=3D"2">Reading the website again, I see we guarantee some level of =
security<BR>
on the tour. Given that each participant selects their own hotel and =
restaurant, <BR>
I don't see much hope of satisfying that guarantee! We don't get addi=
tional<BR>
security at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited Open House, we just let<=
BR>
everyone deal with their own -- the Jaguars in the hotel lot are not molest=
ed.<BR>
Insurance covers losses.<BR>
</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">I can see some questionable sites -- maybe San Francisco in =
my case -- could<BR>
require more. What will you all do, hire guards? What is our li=
ability in case<BR>
of loss by participants? Should we set up an emergency aid team for t=
he <BR>
event? This will all cost money. I was hoping for a tour of man=
y people going<BR>
on a long drive -- on their own, but together.<BR>
</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">Did we discuss this before? I forget.<BR>
</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">Jerry<BR>
</FONT> <BR>
Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC "Laiss=
ez les bons temps rouler!"<BR>
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://=
jonat.org<BR>
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR>
<B>From:</B> Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca> <BR>
<B>To:</B> Hudson Marvel <mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com> <B=
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<B>Cc:</B> JONAT MailList <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net> <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] RE: Hello JONAT<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Hello Hudson !<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Regarding the numbe=
rs at Tour start and end, there was a bit of discussion on this in the past =
day or so. Numbers I will expect will be reflected mostly in local par=
ticipation, but I also think the start and end of Tour events will attract q=
uite a few extra provided we get our publicity machine pumped up. Exac=
t numbers ... tough to say at this point.<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Looking at the Fest=
ival of Exotic Cars link, it looks like they are planning to have Jaguar as =
the featured marque in 2005, but do not have a marque for 2004. Any ch=
ance of getting them to move that up to 2004 as a tie in to our event?<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I'll update the rou=
te maps on the webpage this weekend per your note. Any thoughts on end=
-of-tour route yet?<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I've been thinking =
about "The Tour Torch" since we met. Maybe we can hit up Jag=
uar North America for one of those six foot leapers they have in front of th=
eir dealerships ;o) ... well maybe not. But they might have something =
a tad smaller we can use. I think we're building up to a formal contac=
t with them soon, so this could go on the agenda. I'm posting this not=
e to the JONAT list (hope you don't mind), so perhaps there are other ideas =
out there for a "Torch"<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I look forward to y=
our comments on the press release.<BR>
</FONT></FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">Bob England<BR>
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>
Route Coordinator<BR>
http://www.jonat.org <http://www.jonat.org/><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Hudson Marvel [mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com]<BR>
Sent: November 13, 2002 9:42 AM<BR>
To: Bob England<BR>
Subject: Hello JONAT<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Hello Bob,<BR>
I am so sorry that I have been out of touch that last few weeks. Have been<=
BR>
keeping up with the email conversations and want to take time to bring you<=
BR>
up to date.<BR>
<BR>
PRESS RELEASE<BR>
Got the press release and have turned it over to my agencies PR department.=
<BR>
I will forward their draft to you by the middle of next week.<BR>
<BR>
TOUR START<BR>
Participants that know or are thinking of they of coming to Florida for the=
<BR>
start of the tour contact me. I am still planning to coordinate the start t=
o<BR>
the tour with the Festival of Exotic Cars, http://www.tscevents.com/ in Mt.=
<BR>
Dora Florida, which is about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow the link for a<BR=
>
background on the event and accommodations.<BR>
<BR>
ROUTE<BR>
Bill Borrusch has driven the Route from Central Florida up to Pensacola. At=
<BR>
this time we are recommending that the tour take highway 441 out of Mt. Dor=
a<BR>
till it intersects highway 44 in Leesburg. Continue east on 44 till<BR>
intersecting highway 19/98 at Crystal River. Head North on 19/98, at<BR>
Tennille the highway becomes 19/27 and takes you right into Tallahassee.<BR=
>
According to MapQuest the distance will be approx 233 miles. From<BR>
Tallahassee I recommend taking interstate 10 to Pensacola, though you do<BR=
>
have the option of taking highway 20. Do not recommend getting near the<BR>
beach, traffic is very heavy that time of year.<BR>
<BR>
TOUR END<BR>
Again if I can get an estimate of those that are planning to be at the tour=
<BR>
end, it will help in finding a location.<BR>
<BR>
THE TOURCH<BR>
Does anybody out there have a spare Leaper or Growler that can be used in<B=
R>
the construction of the touch, if so please contact me and I will send you<=
BR>
my address. I will take care of the cost of the torch construction at this<=
BR>
end.<BR>
<BR>
That is all I have at this time.<BR>
Hudson<BR>
86 XJS<BR>
95 XJ6<BR>
<BR>
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