[JONAT] Tour Security

Jamie - JONAT jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Nov 14 15:56:02 2003


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Re: [JONAT] Tour SecurityThere will be a release of liability form for =
all participants to sign prior to being allowed to officially =
participate in the Tour.  Much like the personal liability statement =
forms required when showing a car.

Jamie & Dru - Everett, WA
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hudson Marvel=20
  To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] Tour Security


  In regards to security and liability, has anyone checked into our =
liability as organizers if a non-participant is injured or their car =
damaged by a participant during the tour. Forgive me if I am repeating a =
concern that has already been addressed.

  Hudson

  11/14/03 2:31 PM, Jerry Mouton at jerry@moutons.org wrote:


    What's everybody's take on security at tour stops?

    Reading the website again, I see we guarantee some level of security
    on the tour.  Given that each participant selects their own hotel =
and restaurant,=20
    I don't see much hope of satisfying that guarantee!  We don't get =
additional
    security at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited Open House, we =
just let
    everyone deal with their own -- the Jaguars in the hotel lot are not =
molested.
    Insurance covers losses.

    I can see some questionable sites -- maybe San Francisco in my case =
-- could
    require more.  What will you all do, hire guards?  What is our =
liability in case
    of loss by participants?  Should we set up an emergency aid team for =
the=20
    event?  This will all cost money.  I was hoping for a tour of many =
people going
    on a long drive -- on their own, but together.

    Did we discuss this before?  I forget.

    Jerry

    Jerry Mouton    '64 E Type FHC    "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
         Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
         April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca> =20
      To: Hudson Marvel <mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com> =20
      Cc: JONAT MailList <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net> =20
      Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM
      Subject: [JONAT] RE: Hello JONAT

      Hello Hudson !

      Regarding the numbers at Tour start and end, there was a bit of =
discussion on this in the past day or so.  Numbers I will expect will be =
reflected mostly in local participation, but I also think the start and =
end of Tour events will attract quite a few extra provided we get our =
publicity machine pumped up.  Exact numbers ... tough to say at this =
point.

      Looking at the Festival of Exotic Cars link, it looks like they =
are planning to have Jaguar as the featured marque in 2005, but do not =
have a marque for 2004.  Any chance of getting them to move that up to =
2004 as a tie in to our event?

      I'll update the route maps on the webpage this weekend per your =
note.  Any thoughts on end-of-tour route yet?

      I've been thinking about "The Tour Torch" since we met.  Maybe we =
can hit up Jaguar North America for one of those six foot leapers they =
have in front of their dealerships ;o) ... well maybe not.  But they =
might have something a tad smaller we can use.  I think we're building =
up to a formal contact with them soon, so this could go on the agenda.  =
I'm posting this note to the JONAT list (hope you don't mind), so =
perhaps there are other ideas out there for a "Torch"

      I look forward to your comments on the press release.



      Bob England
      '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
      Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
      Route Coordinator
      http://www.jonat.org <http://www.jonat.org/>



      -----Original Message-----
      From: Hudson Marvel [mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com]
      Sent: November 13, 2002 9:42 AM
      To: Bob England
      Subject: Hello JONAT


      Hello Bob,
      I am so sorry that I have been out of touch that last few weeks. =
Have been
      keeping up with the email conversations and want to take time to =
bring you
      up to date.

      PRESS RELEASE
      Got the press release and have turned it over to my agencies PR =
department.
      I will forward their draft to you by the middle of next week.

      TOUR START
      Participants that know or are thinking of they of coming to =
Florida for the
      start of the tour contact me. I am still planning to coordinate =
the start to
      the tour with the Festival of Exotic Cars, =
http://www.tscevents.com/ in Mt.
      Dora Florida, which is about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow the link =
for a
      background on the event and accommodations.

      ROUTE
      Bill Borrusch has driven the Route from Central Florida up to =
Pensacola. At
      this time we are recommending that the tour take highway 441 out =
of Mt. Dora
      till it intersects highway 44 in Leesburg. Continue east on 44 =
till
      intersecting highway 19/98 at Crystal River. Head North on 19/98, =
at
      Tennille the highway becomes 19/27 and takes you right into =
Tallahassee.
      According to MapQuest the distance will be approx 233 miles. From
      Tallahassee I recommend taking interstate 10 to Pensacola, though =
you do
      have the option of taking highway 20. Do not recommend getting =
near the
      beach, traffic is very heavy that time of year.

      TOUR END
      Again if I can get an estimate of those that are planning to be at =
the tour
      end, it will help in finding a location.

      THE TOURCH
      Does anybody out there have a spare Leaper or Growler that can be =
used in
      the construction of the touch, if so please contact me and I will =
send you
      my address. I will take care of the cost of the torch construction =
at this
      end.

      That is all I have at this time.
      Hudson
      86 XJS
      95 XJ6






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<DIV>Jamie &amp; Dru - Everett, WA<BR>88 Series III V12 VdP - =
Roxanne<BR>89 XJS=20
V12 Convertible - Butch<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 13, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Tour =
Security</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>In regards to security and liability, has anyone =
checked into=20
  our liability as organizers if a non-participant is injured or their =
car=20
  damaged by a participant during the tour. Forgive me if I am repeating =
a=20
  concern that has already been addressed.<BR><BR>Hudson<BR><BR>11/14/03 =
2:31=20
  PM, Jerry Mouton at <A =
href=3D"mailto:jerry@moutons.org">jerry@moutons.org</A>=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2>What's everybody's take on security at tour =

    stops?<BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Reading the website again, I see =
we=20
    guarantee some level of security<BR>on the tour. &nbsp;Given that =
each=20
    participant selects their own hotel and restaurant, <BR>I don't see =
much=20
    hope of satisfying that guarantee! &nbsp;We don't get =
additional<BR>security=20
    at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited Open House, we just=20
    let<BR>everyone deal with their own -- the Jaguars in the hotel lot =
are not=20
    molested.<BR>Insurance covers losses.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>I =
can see=20
    some questionable sites -- maybe San Francisco in my case --=20
    could<BR>require more. &nbsp;What will you all do, hire guards? =
&nbsp;What=20
    is our liability in case<BR>of loss by participants? &nbsp;Should we =
set up=20
    an emergency aid team for the <BR>event? &nbsp;This will all cost =
money.=20
    &nbsp;I was hoping for a tour of many people going<BR>on a long =
drive -- on=20
    their own, but together.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Did we discuss =
this=20
    before? &nbsp;I forget.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Jerry<BR></FONT><BR>Jerry=20
    Mouton &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'64 E Type FHC &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Laissez =
les bons=20
    temps rouler!"<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jaguar Owner's North =

    American Tour - =
http://jonat.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;April 15,=20
    2004 - July 4, 2004<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> Bob=20
      &lt;mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca&gt; &nbsp;<BR><B>To:</B> Hudson =
Marvel=20
      &lt;mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com&gt; &nbsp;<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
JONAT=20
      MailList &lt;mailto:jonat@autox.team.net&gt; =
&nbsp;<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
      Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] RE: =
Hello=20
      JONAT<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
face=3DArial>Hello=20
      Hudson !<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
      size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Regarding the numbers at Tour start =
and end, there=20
      was a bit of discussion on this in the past day or so. =
&nbsp;Numbers I=20
      will expect will be reflected mostly in local participation, but I =
also=20
      think the start and end of Tour events will attract quite a few =
extra=20
      provided we get our publicity machine pumped up. &nbsp;Exact =
numbers ...=20
      tough to say at this point.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT=20
      color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Looking at the =
Festival of=20
      Exotic Cars link, it looks like they are planning to have Jaguar =
as the=20
      featured marque in 2005, but do not have a marque for 2004. =
&nbsp;Any=20
      chance of getting them to move that up to 2004 as a tie in to our=20
      event?<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
      face=3DArial>I'll update the route maps on the webpage this =
weekend per your=20
      note. &nbsp;Any thoughts on end-of-tour route=20
      yet?<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
      face=3DArial>I've been thinking about "The Tour Torch" since we =
met.=20
      &nbsp;Maybe we can hit up Jaguar North America for one of those =
six foot=20
      leapers they have in front of their dealerships ;o) ... well maybe =
not.=20
      &nbsp;But they might have something a tad smaller we can use. =
&nbsp;I=20
      think we're building up to a formal contact with them soon, so =
this could=20
      go on the agenda. &nbsp;I'm posting this note to the JONAT list =
(hope you=20
      don't mind), so perhaps there are other ideas out there for a=20
      "Torch"<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
      face=3DArial>I look forward to your comments on the press=20
      release.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>Bob=20
      England<BR>'69 E-Type &amp; '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North =
American Tour=20
      (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR>http://www.jonat.org=20
      &lt;http://www.jonat.org/&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR>From: Hudson Marvel=20
      [mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com]<BR>Sent: November 13, 2002 =
9:42=20
      AM<BR>To: Bob England<BR>Subject: Hello JONAT<BR><BR><BR>Hello =
Bob,<BR>I=20
      am so sorry that I have been out of touch that last few weeks. =
Have=20
      been<BR>keeping up with the email conversations and want to take =
time to=20
      bring you<BR>up to date.<BR><BR>PRESS RELEASE<BR>Got the press =
release and=20
      have turned it over to my agencies PR department.<BR>I will =
forward their=20
      draft to you by the middle of next week.<BR><BR>TOUR =
START<BR>Participants=20
      that know or are thinking of they of coming to Florida for =
the<BR>start of=20
      the tour contact me. I am still planning to coordinate the start =
to<BR>the=20
      tour with the Festival of Exotic Cars, http://www.tscevents.com/ =
in=20
      Mt.<BR>Dora Florida, which is about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow =
the link=20
      for a<BR>background on the event and =
accommodations.<BR><BR>ROUTE<BR>Bill=20
      Borrusch has driven the Route from Central Florida up to =
Pensacola.=20
      At<BR>this time we are recommending that the tour take highway 441 =
out of=20
      Mt. Dora<BR>till it intersects highway 44 in Leesburg. Continue =
east on 44=20
      till<BR>intersecting highway 19/98 at Crystal River. Head North on =
19/98,=20
      at<BR>Tennille the highway becomes 19/27 and takes you right into=20
      Tallahassee.<BR>According to MapQuest the distance will be approx =
233=20
      miles. From<BR>Tallahassee I recommend taking interstate 10 to =
Pensacola,=20
      though you do<BR>have the option of taking highway 20. Do not =
recommend=20
      getting near the<BR>beach, traffic is very heavy that time of=20
      year.<BR><BR>TOUR END<BR>Again if I can get an estimate of those =
that are=20
      planning to be at the tour<BR>end, it will help in finding a=20
      location.<BR><BR>THE TOURCH<BR>Does anybody out there have a spare =
Leaper=20
      or Growler that can be used in<BR>the construction of the touch, =
if so=20
      please contact me and I will send you<BR>my address. I will take =
care of=20
      the cost of the torch construction at this<BR>end.<BR><BR>That is =
all I=20
      have at this time.<BR>Hudson<BR>86 XJS<BR>95=20
    =
XJ6<BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY><=
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