[JONAT] Tour Security

Jamie - JONAT jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Nov 14 15:54:01 2003


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To the best of my knowledge, we have only guaranteed the security of any =
information participants provide during registration.  I'll go back and =
see what might have changed on the Site, which I must have missed.

Jamie & Dru - Everett, WA
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jerry Mouton=20
  To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:31 AM
  Subject: [JONAT] Tour Security


  What's everybody's take on security at tour stops?

  Reading the website again, I see we guarantee some level of security
  on the tour.  Given that each participant selects their own hotel and =
restaurant,=20
  I don't see much hope of satisfying that guarantee!  We don't get =
additional
  security at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited Open House, we just =
let
  everyone deal with their own -- the Jaguars in the hotel lot are not =
molested.
  Insurance covers losses.

  I can see some questionable sites -- maybe San Francisco in my case -- =
could
  require more.  What will you all do, hire guards?  What is our =
liability in case
  of loss by participants?  Should we set up an emergency aid team for =
the=20
  event?  This will all cost money.  I was hoping for a tour of many =
people going
  on a long drive -- on their own, but together.

  Did we discuss this before?  I forget.

  Jerry

  Jerry Mouton    '64 E Type FHC    "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
        Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
        April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Bob=20
    To: Hudson Marvel=20
    Cc: JONAT MailList=20
    Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM
    Subject: [JONAT] RE: Hello JONAT


    Hello Hudson !

    Regarding the numbers at Tour start and end, there was a bit of =
discussion on this in the past day or so.  Numbers I will expect will be =
reflected mostly in local participation, but I also think the start and =
end of Tour events will attract quite a few extra provided we get our =
publicity machine pumped up.  Exact numbers ... tough to say at this =
point.

    Looking at the Festival of Exotic Cars link, it looks like they are =
planning to have Jaguar as the featured marque in 2005, but do not have =
a marque for 2004.  Any chance of getting them to move that up to 2004 =
as a tie in to our event?

    I'll update the route maps on the webpage this weekend per your =
note.  Any thoughts on end-of-tour route yet?

    I've been thinking about "The Tour Torch" since we met.  Maybe we =
can hit up Jaguar North America for one of those six foot leapers they =
have in front of their dealerships ;o) ... well maybe not.  But they =
might have something a tad smaller we can use.  I think we're building =
up to a formal contact with them soon, so this could go on the agenda.  =
I'm posting this note to the JONAT list (hope you don't mind), so =
perhaps there are other ideas out there for a "Torch"

    I look forward to your comments on the press release.



    Bob England
    '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
    Route Coordinator
    http://www.jonat.org <http://www.jonat.org/>



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hudson Marvel [mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com]
    Sent: November 13, 2002 9:42 AM
    To: Bob England
    Subject: Hello JONAT


    Hello Bob,
    I am so sorry that I have been out of touch that last few weeks. =
Have been
    keeping up with the email conversations and want to take time to =
bring you
    up to date.

    PRESS RELEASE
    Got the press release and have turned it over to my agencies PR =
department.
    I will forward their draft to you by the middle of next week.

    TOUR START
    Participants that know or are thinking of they of coming to Florida =
for the
    start of the tour contact me. I am still planning to coordinate the =
start to
    the tour with the Festival of Exotic Cars, http://www.tscevents.com/ =
in Mt.
    Dora Florida, which is about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow the link =
for a
    background on the event and accommodations.

    ROUTE
    Bill Borrusch has driven the Route from Central Florida up to =
Pensacola. At
    this time we are recommending that the tour take highway 441 out of =
Mt. Dora
    till it intersects highway 44 in Leesburg. Continue east on 44 till
    intersecting highway 19/98 at Crystal River. Head North on 19/98, at
    Tennille the highway becomes 19/27 and takes you right into =
Tallahassee.
    According to MapQuest the distance will be approx 233 miles. From
    Tallahassee I recommend taking interstate 10 to Pensacola, though =
you do
    have the option of taking highway 20. Do not recommend getting near =
the
    beach, traffic is very heavy that time of year.

    TOUR END
    Again if I can get an estimate of those that are planning to be at =
the tour
    end, it will help in finding a location.

    THE TOURCH
    Does anybody out there have a spare Leaper or Growler that can be =
used in
    the construction of the touch, if so please contact me and I will =
send you
    my address. I will take care of the cost of the torch construction =
at this
    end.

    That is all I have at this time.
    Hudson
    86 XJS
    95 XJ6



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To the best of my knowledge, we have =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jamie &amp; Dru - Everett, WA<BR>88 Series III V12 VdP - =
Roxanne<BR>89 XJS=20
V12 Convertible - Butch<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <A=20
href=3D"http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</A><BR>April 15, 2004 - July =
4,=20
2004<BR></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A title=3Djerry@moutons.org href=3D"mailto:jerry@moutons.org">Jerry =
Mouton</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, 2003 =
11:31=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Tour =
Security</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What's everybody's take on security at tour=20
  stops?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Reading the website again, I see we guarantee some =
level of=20
  security</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>on the tour.&nbsp; Given that each participant =
selects their=20
  own hotel and restaurant, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't see much hope of satisfying that =
guarantee!&nbsp; We=20
  don't get additional</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>security at our events now, like the XKs Unlimited =
Open=20
  House, we just let</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>everyone deal with their own --&nbsp;the Jaguars =
in the=20
  hotel lot are not molested.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Insurance covers losses.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I can see some questionable sites -- maybe San =
Francisco in=20
  my case -- could</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>require more.&nbsp; What will you all do, hire =
guards?&nbsp;=20
  What is our liability in case</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>of loss by participants?&nbsp; Should we set up an =
emergency=20
  aid team for the </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>event?&nbsp; This will all cost money.&nbsp; I was =
hoping=20
  for a tour of many people going</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>on a long drive --&nbsp;on their own,=20
  but&nbsp;together.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Did we discuss this before?&nbsp; I =
forget.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Jerry Mouton&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '64 E Type FHC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"Laissez=20
  les bons temps rouler!"<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jaguar =
Owner's North=20
  American Tour - <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;=20
  April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com">Hudson Marvel</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">JONAT MailList</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, =
2003 8:52=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] RE: Hello =
JONAT</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hello Hudson =
!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Regarding the =
numbers at Tour=20
    start and end, there was a bit of discussion on this in the past day =
or=20
    so.&nbsp; Numbers I will expect will be reflected mostly in local=20
    participation, but I also think&nbsp;the start and end of Tour =
events will=20
    attract quite a few extra provided we get our publicity machine =
pumped=20
    up.&nbsp; Exact numbers ... tough to say at this point.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Looking at the =
Festival of Exotic=20
    Cars link, it looks like they are planning to have Jaguar as the =
featured=20
    marque in 2005, but do not have a marque&nbsp;for 2004.&nbsp; Any =
chance of=20
    getting them to move that up to 2004 as a tie in to our =
event?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'll update the =
route maps on the=20
    webpage this weekend per your note.&nbsp; Any thoughts on =
end-of-tour route=20
    yet?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I've been thinking =
about "The=20
    Tour Torch" since we met.&nbsp; Maybe we can hit up Jaguar North =
America for=20
    one of those six foot leapers they have in front of their =
dealerships ;o)=20
    ... well maybe not.&nbsp; But they might have something a tad=20
    smaller&nbsp;we can use.&nbsp; I think we're building up to a formal =
contact=20
    with them soon, so this could go on the agenda.&nbsp; I'm posting =
this note=20
    to the JONAT list (hope you don't mind), so perhaps there are other =
ideas=20
    out there for a "Torch"</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I look forward to =
your comments=20
    on the press release.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><BR><BR></DIV>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>Bob England<BR>'69 E-Type &amp; '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar =
Owner's=20
    North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.jonat.org" =
target=3D_blank>http://www.jonat.org</A> &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://www.jonat.org/</A>&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Origina=
l=20
    Message-----<BR>From: Hudson Marvel [<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.com">mailto:hmarvel@gilbertmanjura.=
com</A>]<BR>Sent:=20
    November 13, 2002 9:42 AM<BR>To: Bob England<BR>Subject: Hello=20
    JONAT<BR><BR><BR>Hello Bob,<BR>I am so sorry that I have been out of =
touch=20
    that last few weeks. Have been<BR>keeping up with the email =
conversations=20
    and want to take time to bring you<BR>up to date.<BR><BR>PRESS=20
    RELEASE<BR>Got the press release and have turned it over to my =
agencies PR=20
    department.<BR>I will forward their draft to you by the middle of =
next=20
    week.<BR><BR>TOUR START<BR>Participants that know or are thinking of =
they of=20
    coming to Florida for the<BR>start of the tour contact me. I am =
still=20
    planning to coordinate the start to<BR>the tour with the Festival of =
Exotic=20
    Cars, <A href=3D"http://www.tscevents.com/"=20
    target=3D_blank>http://www.tscevents.com/</A> in Mt.<BR>Dora =
Florida, which is=20
    about 40 min NW of Orlando. Follow the link for a<BR>background on =
the event=20
    and accommodations.<BR><BR>ROUTE<BR>Bill Borrusch has driven the =
Route from=20
    Central Florida up to Pensacola. At<BR>this time we are recommending =
that=20
    the tour take highway 441 out of Mt. Dora<BR>till it intersects =
highway 44=20
    in Leesburg. Continue east on 44 till<BR>intersecting highway 19/98 =
at=20
    Crystal River. Head North on 19/98, at<BR>Tennille the highway =
becomes 19/27=20
    and takes you right into Tallahassee.<BR>According to MapQuest the =
distance=20
    will be approx 233 miles. From<BR>Tallahassee I recommend taking =
interstate=20
    10 to Pensacola, though you do<BR>have the option of taking highway =
20. Do=20
    not recommend getting near the<BR>beach, traffic is very heavy that =
time of=20
    year.<BR><BR>TOUR END<BR>Again if I can get an estimate of those =
that are=20
    planning to be at the tour<BR>end, it will help in finding a=20
    location.<BR><BR>THE TOURCH<BR>Does anybody out there have a spare =
Leaper or=20
    Growler that can be used in<BR>the construction of the touch, if so =
please=20
    contact me and I will send you<BR>my address. I will take care of =
the cost=20
    of the torch construction at this<BR>end.<BR><BR>That is all I have =
at this=20
    time.<BR>Hudson<BR>86 XJS<BR>95=20
XJ6<BR><BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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