[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Bob
jonat@autox.team.net
Sun Feb 1 08:00:05 2004
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Dick
No indication of numbers yet. Perhaps I can ask that question of the SC's -
how many of your locals do you think will come out, and what percentage will
be doing multiple sectors?
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 11:41 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
$65 sounds high to me, since I think many participants will jump on the
tour as it passes near their home, and jump off after a pleasant, but
relatively short, drive. A high fee would discourage these drivers'
participation. Is there any indication of how many folks plan on doing more
than a short regional leg or two?
Re: Greg's question on fee collection -- It seems to me that a single low
general tour fee ($45 or less) might be adequate to cover all organizational
expenses (hats, badges, printing), eliminating the need for any sector fees.
A set amount from the general fund could be forwarded to each SC to draw
from to cover regional printing expenses. If there is a special sector
'event' scheduled which required funds to implement, then I could see
collecting a small participation fee from just the people who want to attend
that event at the time the event takes place; those that choose not to
attend the event wouldn't pay this fee.
At this point in time, having no input on the number of participants, it
is difficult to schedule an event. More information is needed to come up
with a decent proposal.
Dick.
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From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Dick
The idea is to keep things simple as this is an all volunteer effort.
The simplest thing if for JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the
sectors to collect theirs, so one flat fee I think would be less manageable
for us volunteers (much better, however, for the participants) if we had to
dole out money based on requests from the Sectors. My own personal opinion
is that the Sectors need to collect and manage their own finances.
I suppose if we collect $65 for the tour, rather than $45, and send the
extra $20 to the participants' home sector, this might be workable. We need
to keep it a fixed amount though to keep it simple. How does that sound as
an alternative ...
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 5:19 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Bob,
As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping up....What is
the rationale for doing both central and sector fees? Wouldn't it be more
manageable to have just one flat fee for participation in the tour, which
would be the same for everyone, regardless of the number of sectors
travelled? So what if people travelling multiple sectors get more bang for
their buck? This would enable all of the money to all be funneled into one
place (central committee) where it could be managed basically by one person.
If SC's need funds for approved requests, the central committee would then
simply disperse the reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly
where things stand financially.
Dick.
Minnesota SC.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with Tour
fees collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector. The
downside to this is people will be sending their money all over the place,
the upside is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between
central and/or the sectors. This might not be the best way though ... any
other thoughts?
We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of registration
people, one for the US, and one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have
started to put together some registration pages at
http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you want
to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit your
registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
Bob
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be
collected?
Gregory
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>$65 sounds high to me, since I think many =
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pleasant,=20
but relatively short, drive. A high fee would discourage these =
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participation. <FONT color=3D#000080>Is there any indication of =
how many=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Re: Greg's question on fee collection -- It seems =
to me that=20
a single low general tour fee ($45 or less) might =
be adequate to=20
cover all organizational expenses (hats, badges, printing), =
eliminating the=20
need for any sector fees. A set amount from the general fund =
could be=20
forwarded to each SC to draw from to cover regional=20
printing expenses. If there is a special sector 'event' =
scheduled=20
which required funds to implement, then I could see collecting a =
small=20
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event at=20
the time the event takes place; those that choose not to attend the =
event=20
wouldn't pay this fee. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>At this point in time, having no input =
on the=20
number of participants, it is difficult to schedule an =
event. More=20
information is needed to come up with a decent proposal. =
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 5:38=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>The idea is to =
keep things=20
simple as this is an all volunteer effort. The simplest thing =
if for=20
JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to collect =
theirs, so=20
one flat fee I think would be less manageable for us volunteers =
(much=20
better, however, for the participants) if we had to dole out money =
based on=20
requests from the Sectors. My own personal opinion is that the =
Sectors=20
need to collect and manage their own finances.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I suppose if we =
collect $65=20
for the tour, rather than $45, and send the extra $20 to the =
participants'=20
home sector, this might be workable. We need to keep it a =
fixed amount=20
though to keep it simple. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>How does that sound as an =
alternative=20
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN =
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
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<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 5:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] How do we =
collect fees=20
?<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I look at this some more, the question =
keeps popping=20
up....What is the rationale for doing both central and sector =
fees? Wouldn't it be more manageable to have just one =
flat fee=20
for participation in the tour, which would be the same for =
everyone,=20
regardless of the number of </FONT><FONT size=3D2>sectors=20
travelled? So what if people travelling multiple =
sectors get=20
more bang for their buck? This would enable all of the =
money=20
to all be funneled into one place (central committee) where =
it could=20
be managed basically by one person. If SC's need funds for =
approved=20
requests, the central committee would then simply disperse =
the=20
reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly where things =
stand=20
financially. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
31, 2004=20
12:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I've put =
some thought=20
into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected =
centrally,=20
and Sector fees collected by the Sector. The downside to =
this is=20
people will be sending their money all over the place, the =
upside is it=20
keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between central =
and/or the=20
sectors. This might not be the best way though ... any =
other=20
thoughts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>We will =
probably also=20
need fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the =
US, and=20
one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have started =
to put=20
together some registration pages at <A=20
=
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm">h=
ttp://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm</A> if=
=20
you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when =
you=20
submit your registration by e-mail it does not work=20
yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, =
2004=20
10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ=20
!<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>And, how exactly are these fees (both =
general and=20
sector) to be collected?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =20
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Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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