[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !

Richard Jones jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 16:18:04 2004


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  Bob,

  While it may be nice to have a pin for each sector travelled, it isn't =
very practical to have each sector develop, fabricate, and distribute =
their pins.  Morever, these pins can be more expensive than you might =
think when ordered in small quantities.  My vote would be - if you are =
registered, you get a nice hat with the logo as part of your =
registration fee.  That's it.

  As I read more posts, I am getting a little concerned that the =
anticipated activities for SC's may be escalating above the description =
given in the SC Guide
  http://www.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm which is =
basically
  to establish a route, with recommended hotels, restaurants, and =
stopping points of interest.  While I am enjoying doing these core =
activities, I know I would have little time to do much more.

  Dick
  Minnesota SC =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Bob=20
    To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
    Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !


    Dick

    Up front costs would include, for example, printing costs for the =
handout until such time as registrations are paid and the money starts =
coming in.  Keep in mind $10 doesn't cover much, so, for example, if we =
decide on the pin idea, you will likely need some sponsorship to cover =
the additional costs (printing plus pin greater than $10).

    Any monies left over is to go to charity.

    Bob England
    '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
    Route Coordinator
    http://www.jonat.org

    -----Original Message-----
    From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Richard Jones
    Sent: January 31, 2004 10:47 AM
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !


      Re: =20
      "process has been developed on how the  SC's get reimbursed should =
we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and =
how they work their Sector finances.  There is no seed fund at a Tour =
level.
      -----
      I'm not clear on what costs/reimbursements are anticipated by =
SC's.  Other than voluteered time, I was not expecting any costs (or any =
reimbursements).  If you are
      referring to things like printing optional sector-specific =
handouts, and the like, wouldn't that be covered by the anticipated $10 =
sector fee?  Also, I am wondering what happens when say $400 is =
collected in sector fees, and 0-$100 is spent -- where does the =
remainder go?

      Dick Jones
      Minnesota SC

      ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Bob=20
        To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
        Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:29 AM
        Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !


        Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them ...

        "fee has been decided for even the National side" - no, still =
under discussion.  If everyone can live with the $10 for the Sector fee, =
I say let's set it at that!

        "route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )" - =
no, that is up the the SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given =
me feedback on their route as of yet.  This does not concern me too much =
right now, but should be decided by the end of the month.  What does =
concern me is that if an SC has not looked at their route and need an =
extra day, THAT causes a problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be =
avoided.

        The one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in place.  =
Wisconsin is close to having one.  Indiana, I think we will by pass as =
there is no interest.  Toronto, I think we are now close.  Dallas and =
Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a couple of e-mails to the SC/ASC =
group and have had ZERO response - I have decided that ZERO response =
means "DON'T CARE" and will make the decision myself.  That only leaves =
Carolinas and I have some feelers out but no definitive response.


        "total of participants by sector has been mentioned" - the =
number of individuals participating in each sector is dependant upon how =
well we do our PR.  We probably won't have a good idea until say end of =
March (or even later in some Sectors).  One of the keys at this point is =
registration, and we are working on a methodology now.

        "decision on who can participate has been finalized" - I think =
we're close - I'll try to put together a policy for review by the end of =
the weekend.

        "process has been developed on how the  SC's get reimbursed =
should we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the =
SC's and how they work their Sector finances.  There is no seed fund at =
a Tour level.

        "While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - =
We have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the =
need for these other details will obviously not be needed." - you are =
spot on.  But also we should not stifle the ideas on the small issues =
either.

        Brad these type of comments are good and I would encourage all =
to be outspoken.  There are a few items that are behind where I would =
like to see them too.  There is always a last minute rush on volunteer =
type organizations, and I personally hate that part and want to avoid it =
as much as possible.
        Bob England
        '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
        Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
        Route Coordinator
        http://www.jonat.org

        -----Original Message-----
        From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
        Sent: January 30, 2004 10:30 PM
        To: jonat@autox.team.net
        Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time=20


        Team,

        Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and I have to =
ask , Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are there ANY details =
that have been decided on FIRMLY - seriously:

         I don't think a:

        1.  fee has been decided for even the National side
        2.  route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia ) =

        3.  total of participants by sector has been mentioned
        4.  decision on who can participate has been finalized
        5.  process has been developed on how the  SC's get reimbursed =
should we/they cover some of the costs up front

        Among others.....

        While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We =
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need =
for these other details will obviously not be needed.=20

        DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED =
ASAP

        Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike was =
talking about.....


        Brad Preiss

        Virginia SC


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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>While it may be nice to have a pin for each sector =

  travelled, it isn't very practical to have each sector develop, =
fabricate, and=20
  distribute their pins.&nbsp; Morever, these pins can be more expensive =
than=20
  you might think when ordered in small quantities.&nbsp; My vote would =
be - if=20
  you are registered, you get a nice hat with the logo as part of your=20
  registration fee.&nbsp; That's it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I read more posts, I am getting a little =
concerned that=20
  the anticipated activities for&nbsp;SC's may be escalating above the=20
  description given in the SC Guide</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm">http://www=
.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm</A>&nbsp;which=20
  is basically</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>to establish a route, with recommended hotels, =
restaurants,=20
  and stopping points of interest.&nbsp; While I am enjoying =
doing&nbsp;these=20
  core activities, I know I would have little time to do much =
more.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC&nbsp; </FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 12:58=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] decision =
time ---=20
    REALLY IMPORTANT READ !</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT size=3D2>Up front costs =
would=20
    include, for example, printing costs for the handout until such time =
as=20
    registrations are paid and the money starts coming in.&nbsp; Keep in =
mind=20
    $10 doesn't cover much, so, for example, if we decide on the pin =
idea, you=20
    will likely need some sponsorship to cover the additional costs =
(printing=20
    plus pin greater than $10).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT size=3D2>Any monies left =

    over&nbsp;is to go to charity.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#008000>Bob =
England<BR></FONT><FONT=20
    color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 E-Type &amp; '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's =
North=20
    American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route =
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT color=3D#008000=20
    size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
    [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
    Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 10:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] decision time =
--- REALLY=20
    IMPORTANT READ !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE id=3D0><LABEL id=3DHbSession =
SessionId=3D"2320220260"></LABEL>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Re:&nbsp;=20
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
      color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
      class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has been developed on =
how the=20
      &nbsp;SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs =
up=20
      front</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> =
- that is=20
      up to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances.&nbsp; =
There is no=20
      seed fund at a Tour =
level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
      color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
      =
class=3D470150115-31012004>-----</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>=

      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D470150115-31012004>I'm not clear on what =
costs/reimbursements are=20
      anticipated by SC's.&nbsp; Other than voluteered time, I was not =
expecting=20
      any costs (or any reimbursements).&nbsp; If you=20
      are</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D470150115-31012004>referring to things like printing =
optional=20
      sector-specific handouts, and the like, wouldn't that be covered =
by the=20
      anticipated&nbsp;$10 sector fee?&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, I am wondering =
what=20
      happens when say $400 is collected in sector fees, and 0-$100 is =
spent --=20
      where </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT=20
      face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>does =
the remainder=20
      go?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D470150115-31012004>Dick =
Jones</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D470150115-31012004>Minnesota =
SC</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
      color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
      =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
      <DIV></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A>=20
        </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
        href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
31, 2004=20
        9:29 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] =
decision time=20
        --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them=20
        ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>fee has been decided for even =
the=20
        National side</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
        - no, still under discussion.&nbsp; If everyone can live with =
the $10=20
        for the Sector fee, I say let's set it at=20
        that!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>route&nbsp;has been =
finalized&nbsp;(=20
        guilty here as well in Virginia&nbsp;)</STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - no, that is up =
the the=20
        SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given me feedback on =
their=20
        route as of yet.&nbsp; This does not concern me too much right =
now, but=20
        should be decided by the end of the month.&nbsp; What does =
concern me is=20
        that if an SC has not looked at their route and need an extra =
day, THAT=20
        causes a problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be=20
        avoided.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004>The=20
        one&nbsp;difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in =
place.&nbsp;=20
        Wisconsin is close to having one.&nbsp; Indiana, I think we will =
by pass=20
        as there is no interest.&nbsp; Toronto, I think we are now =
close.&nbsp;=20
        Dallas and Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a couple of =
e-mails to=20
        the SC/ASC group and have had ZERO response - I have decided =
that <FONT=20
        color=3D#ff0000>ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and will make =
the=20
        decision myself</FONT>.&nbsp; That only leaves Carolinas and I =
have some=20
        feelers out but no definitive=20
        response.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>total of participants by =
sector has=20
        been mentioned</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
        - the number of individuals participating in each sector is =
dependant=20
        upon how well we do our PR.&nbsp; We probably won't have a good =
idea=20
        until say end of March (or even later in some Sectors).&nbsp; =
One of the=20
        keys at this point is registration, and we are working on a =
methodology=20
        now.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>decision on who can =
participate has=20
        been finalized</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
        - I think we're close - I'll try to put together a policy for =
review by=20
        the end of the weekend.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        =
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV=
>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has been developed on =
how the=20
        &nbsp;SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs =
up=20
        front</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - that=20
        is up to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances.&nbsp; =
There=20
        is no seed fund at a Tour=20
level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>While the ideas of emblems =
and badges=20
        and the sort are nice - We have got to solidify some of these =
MAJOR=20
        issues here first - or the need for&nbsp;these other details =
will=20
        obviously&nbsp;not be needed.</STRONG><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - you are spot =
on.&nbsp; But=20
        also we should not stifle the ideas on the small issues=20
        either.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D470150115-31012004>Brad these type of comments are good =
and I=20
        would encourage all to be outspoken.&nbsp; There are a few items =
that=20
        are behind where I would like to see them too.&nbsp; There is =
always a=20
        last minute rush on volunteer type organizations, and I =
personally hate=20
        that part and want to avoid it as much as =
possible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob =

        England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 =
size=3D1>'69 E-Type &amp;=20
        '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
        Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
        href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#008000=20
        =
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On=20
        Behalf Of </B>Brad Preiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 30, 2004 10:30 =

        PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[JONAT]=20
        decision time <BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Team,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike&nbsp;100% =
and I=20
        have to ask , Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are =
there ANY=20
        details that have been decided on FIRMLY&nbsp;-=20
        seriously:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004></SPAN><SPAN=20
        class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>&nbsp;I don't think a:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;fee has been decided for even the =
National=20
        side</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;route&nbsp;has been finalized&nbsp;( =
guilty here as=20
        well in Virginia&nbsp;)&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>3.&nbsp;&nbsp;total of participants by sector has been=20
        mentioned</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;decision on who can participate has been=20
        finalized</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>5.&nbsp;&nbsp;process has been developed on how the =
&nbsp;SC's=20
        get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs up=20
        front</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Among others.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are =
nice - We=20
        have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or =
the need=20
        for&nbsp;these other details will obviously&nbsp;not be=20
        needed.</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS =
REQUIRED=20
        ASAP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what =
Mike was=20
        talking about.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Brad Preiss</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>Virginia =
SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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