[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Bob
jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 16:40:32 2004
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Yes, the SC's role may be expanding, and we have to be careful of this, both
for the SC's and the EC. I know for example what I am doing is far more
than expected, and it does get overwhelming at times (you can probably tell
from the tone of my emails from time to time). If any SC starts to get this
feeling, its time to take a time out, express your concerns to the group,
and get us back on track.
Things have evolved slightly since I put together that page, and perhaps its
time we revisited it. I'll do some updates, highlight the changes, and
submit them to the group for comments.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 5:16 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Bob,
While it may be nice to have a pin for each sector travelled, it isn't
very practical to have each sector develop, fabricate, and distribute their
pins. Morever, these pins can be more expensive than you might think when
ordered in small quantities. My vote would be - if you are registered, you
get a nice hat with the logo as part of your registration fee. That's it.
As I read more posts, I am getting a little concerned that the anticipated
activities for SC's may be escalating above the description given in the SC
Guide
http://www.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm which is basically
to establish a route, with recommended hotels, restaurants, and stopping
points of interest. While I am enjoying doing these core activities, I know
I would have little time to do much more.
Dick
Minnesota SC
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Dick
Up front costs would include, for example, printing costs for the
handout until such time as registrations are paid and the money starts
coming in. Keep in mind $10 doesn't cover much, so, for example, if we
decide on the pin idea, you will likely need some sponsorship to cover the
additional costs (printing plus pin greater than $10).
Any monies left over is to go to charity.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 10:47 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Re:
"process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should
we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and how
they work their Sector finances. There is no seed fund at a Tour level.
-----
I'm not clear on what costs/reimbursements are anticipated by SC's.
Other than voluteered time, I was not expecting any costs (or any
reimbursements). If you are
referring to things like printing optional sector-specific handouts,
and the like, wouldn't that be covered by the anticipated $10 sector fee?
Also, I am wondering what happens when say $400 is collected in sector fees,
and 0-$100 is spent -- where does the remainder go?
Dick Jones
Minnesota SC
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them ...
"fee has been decided for even the National side" - no, still under
discussion. If everyone can live with the $10 for the Sector fee, I say
let's set it at that!
"route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )" - no,
that is up the the SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given me
feedback on their route as of yet. This does not concern me too much right
now, but should be decided by the end of the month. What does concern me is
that if an SC has not looked at their route and need an extra day, THAT
causes a problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be avoided.
The one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in place.
Wisconsin is close to having one. Indiana, I think we will by pass as there
is no interest. Toronto, I think we are now close. Dallas and Oklahoma -
not close - have sent out a couple of e-mails to the SC/ASC group and have
had ZERO response - I have decided that ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and
will make the decision myself. That only leaves Carolinas and I have some
feelers out but no definitive response.
"total of participants by sector has been mentioned" - the number of
individuals participating in each sector is dependant upon how well we do
our PR. We probably won't have a good idea until say end of March (or even
later in some Sectors). One of the keys at this point is registration, and
we are working on a methodology now.
"decision on who can participate has been finalized" - I think we're
close - I'll try to put together a policy for review by the end of the
weekend.
"process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should
we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and how
they work their Sector finances. There is no seed fund at a Tour level.
"While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need for
these other details will obviously not be needed." - you are spot on. But
also we should not stifle the ideas on the small issues either.
Brad these type of comments are good and I would encourage all to be
outspoken. There are a few items that are behind where I would like to see
them too. There is always a last minute rush on volunteer type
organizations, and I personally hate that part and want to avoid it as much
as possible.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
Sent: January 30, 2004 10:30 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time
Team,
Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and I have to ask
, Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are there ANY details that
have been decided on FIRMLY - seriously:
I don't think a:
1. fee has been decided for even the National side
2. route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )
3. total of participants by sector has been mentioned
4. decision on who can participate has been finalized
5. process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed
should we/they cover some of the costs up front
Among others.....
While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need for
these other details will obviously not be needed.
DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED ASAP
Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike was
talking about.....
Brad Preiss
Virginia SC
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D635523323-31012004><FONT size=3D2>Things have evolved =
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<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#008000>Bob =
England<BR></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's =
North American=20
Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT color=3D#008000=20
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 5:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] decision time --- =
REALLY=20
IMPORTANT READ !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>While it may be nice to have a pin for each sector =
travelled, it isn't very practical to have each sector develop, =
fabricate, and=20
distribute their pins. Morever, these pins can be more expensive =
than=20
you might think when ordered in small quantities. My vote would =
be - if=20
you are registered, you get a nice hat with the logo as part of your=20
registration fee. That's it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I read more posts, I am getting a little =
concerned that=20
the anticipated activities for SC's may be escalating above the=20
description given in the SC Guide</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm">http://www=
.jonat.org/bob/JONAT_COORDINATORS_Guide.htm</A> which=20
is basically</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>to establish a route, with recommended hotels, =
restaurants,=20
and stopping points of interest. While I am enjoying =
doing these=20
core activities, I know I would have little time to do much =
more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC </FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 12:58=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] decision =
time ---=20
REALLY IMPORTANT READ !</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT size=3D2>Up front costs =
would=20
include, for example, printing costs for the handout until such time =
as=20
registrations are paid and the money starts coming in. Keep in =
mind=20
$10 doesn't cover much, so, for example, if we decide on the pin =
idea, you=20
will likely need some sponsorship to cover the additional costs =
(printing=20
plus pin greater than $10).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D195264418-31012004><FONT size=3D2>Any monies left =
over is to go to charity.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT color=3D#008000>Bob =
England<BR></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's =
North=20
American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route =
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT color=3D#008000=20
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 10:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] decision time =
--- REALLY=20
IMPORTANT READ !<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=3D0><LABEL id=3DHbSession =
SessionId=3D"2320220260"></LABEL>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Re: =20
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has been developed on =
how the=20
SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs =
up=20
front</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> =
- that is=20
up to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances. =
There is no=20
seed fund at a Tour =
level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004>-----</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>=
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>I'm not clear on what =
costs/reimbursements are=20
anticipated by SC's. Other than voluteered time, I was not =
expecting=20
any costs (or any reimbursements). If you=20
are</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>referring to things like printing =
optional=20
sector-specific handouts, and the like, wouldn't that be covered =
by the=20
anticipated $10 sector fee? Also, I am wondering =
what=20
happens when say $400 is collected in sector fees, and 0-$100 is =
spent --=20
where </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>does =
the remainder=20
go?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Dick =
Jones</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Minnesota =
SC</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
31, 2004=20
9:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] =
decision time=20
--- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them=20
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>fee has been decided for even =
the=20
National side</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
- no, still under discussion. If everyone can live with =
the $10=20
for the Sector fee, I say let's set it at=20
that!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>route has been =
finalized (=20
guilty here as well in Virginia )</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - no, that is up =
the the=20
SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given me feedback on =
their=20
route as of yet. This does not concern me too much right =
now, but=20
should be decided by the end of the month. What does =
concern me is=20
that if an SC has not looked at their route and need an extra =
day, THAT=20
causes a problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be=20
avoided.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004>The=20
one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in =
place. =20
Wisconsin is close to having one. Indiana, I think we will =
by pass=20
as there is no interest. Toronto, I think we are now =
close. =20
Dallas and Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a couple of =
e-mails to=20
the SC/ASC group and have had ZERO response - I have decided =
that <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and will make =
the=20
decision myself</FONT>. That only leaves Carolinas and I =
have some=20
feelers out but no definitive=20
response.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>total of participants by =
sector has=20
been mentioned</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
- the number of individuals participating in each sector is =
dependant=20
upon how well we do our PR. We probably won't have a good =
idea=20
until say end of March (or even later in some Sectors). =
One of the=20
keys at this point is registration, and we are working on a =
methodology=20
now.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>decision on who can =
participate has=20
been finalized</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG>=20
- I think we're close - I'll try to put together a policy for =
review by=20
the end of the weekend.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has been developed on =
how the=20
SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs =
up=20
front</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - that=20
is up to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances. =
There=20
is no seed fund at a Tour=20
level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>While the ideas of emblems =
and badges=20
and the sort are nice - We have got to solidify some of these =
MAJOR=20
issues here first - or the need for these other details =
will=20
obviously not be needed.</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - you are spot =
on. But=20
also we should not stifle the ideas on the small issues=20
either.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Brad these type of comments are good =
and I=20
would encourage all to be outspoken. There are a few items =
that=20
are behind where I would like to see them too. There is =
always a=20
last minute rush on volunteer type organizations, and I =
personally hate=20
that part and want to avoid it as much as =
possible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob =
England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 =
size=3D1>'69 E-Type &=20
'72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#008000=20
=
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Brad Preiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 30, 2004 10:30 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[JONAT]=20
decision time <BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Team,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% =
and I=20
have to ask , Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are =
there ANY=20
details that have been decided on FIRMLY -=20
seriously:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> I don't think a:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>1. fee has been decided for even the =
National=20
side</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>2. route has been finalized ( =
guilty here as=20
well in Virginia ) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>3. total of participants by sector has been=20
mentioned</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>4. decision on who can participate has been=20
finalized</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>5. process has been developed on how the =
SC's=20
get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs up=20
front</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Among others.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are =
nice - We=20
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or =
the need=20
for these other details will obviously not be=20
needed.</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS =
REQUIRED=20
ASAP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what =
Mike was=20
talking about.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Brad Preiss</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Virginia =
SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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