[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Brad Preiss
jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 21:13:00 2004
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I agree with Gregory here - let's keep it a simple flat fee if at all
possible with one central place to send the money for entrance.
We can work out how these fees can be disbursed to the SC's going forward
Any monies "left over" can be issued to sectors where there are preceding
participants going into their sector from a previous leg. ( for example a
person originates in New York pays the entrance fee there but continues on
through multiple sectors to Florida - monies could be spread out to cover
any costs of this participant to the sectors in other areas).
Seeing as each participant would only get a "goodie" bag at the starting
point ( and not at each leg ) - I don' think there should be too much
overhead for someone wanting to do multiple legs, other then the cost of an
additional route map for each leg driven.
This will encourage participation in my opinion.
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:08 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
That sounds like a good alternative. But charging a sector fee discourages
people from doing more than one sector. I am starting to think we should
eliminate a sector fee altogether.
Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Dick
The idea is to keep things simple as this is an all volunteer effort.
The simplest thing if for JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the
sectors to collect theirs, so one flat fee I think would be less manageable
for us volunteers (much better, however, for the participants) if we had to
dole out money based on requests from the Sectors. My own personal opinion
is that the Sectors need to collect and manage their own finances.
I suppose if we collect $65 for the tour, rather than $45, and send the
extra $20 to the participants' home sector, this might be workable. We need
to keep it a fixed amount though to keep it simple. How does that sound as
an alternative ...
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 5:19 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Bob,
As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping up....What is
the rationale for doing both central and sector fees? Wouldn't it be more
manageable to have just one flat fee for participation in the tour, which
would be the same for everyone, regardless of the number of sectors
travelled? So what if people travelling multiple sectors get more bang for
their buck? This would enable all of the money to all be funneled into one
place (central committee) where it could be managed basically by one person.
If SC's need funds for approved requests, the central committee would then
simply disperse the reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly
where things stand financially.
Dick.
Minnesota SC.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with Tour
fees collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector. The
downside to this is people will be sending their money all over the place,
the upside is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between
central and/or the sectors. This might not be the best way though ... any
other thoughts?
We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of registration
people, one for the US, and one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have
started to put together some registration pages at
http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you want
to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit your
registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be
collected?
Gregory
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT size=3D2>We can work out how =
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can be disbursed to the SC's going forward </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT size=3D2>Any monies "left =
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issued to sectors where there are preceding participants going into =
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sector from a previous leg. ( for example a person originates in New =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT size=3D2>Seeing as each =
participant=20
would only get a "goodie" bag at the starting point ( and not at each =
leg ) - I=20
don' think there should be too much overhead for someone wanting to do =
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legs, other then the cost of an additional route map for each leg=20
driven.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT size=3D2>This will encourage =
participation in my opinion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D780300204-01022004><FONT =
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jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On =
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</B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:08 =
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do we=20
collect fees ?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>That sounds like a good alternative. But charging =
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fee discourages people from doing more than one sector. I am starting =
to think=20
we should eliminate a sector fee altogether.</FONT></DIV>
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Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 3:38=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>The idea is to =
keep things=20
simple as this is an all volunteer effort. The simplest thing =
if for=20
JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to collect =
theirs, so=20
one flat fee I think would be less manageable for us volunteers =
(much=20
better, however, for the participants) if we had to dole out money =
based on=20
requests from the Sectors. My own personal opinion is that the =
Sectors=20
need to collect and manage their own finances.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I suppose if we =
collect $65=20
for the tour, rather than $45, and send the extra $20 to the =
participants'=20
home sector, this might be workable. We need to keep it a =
fixed amount=20
though to keep it simple. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>How does that sound as an =
alternative=20
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN =
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 5:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] How do we =
collect fees=20
?<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I look at this some more, the question =
keeps popping=20
up....What is the rationale for doing both central and sector =
fees? Wouldn't it be more manageable to have just one =
flat fee=20
for participation in the tour, which would be the same for =
everyone,=20
regardless of the number of </FONT><FONT size=3D2>sectors=20
travelled? So what if people travelling multiple =
sectors get=20
more bang for their buck? This would enable all of the =
money=20
to all be funneled into one place (central committee) where =
it could=20
be managed basically by one person. If SC's need funds for =
approved=20
requests, the central committee would then simply disperse =
the=20
reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly where things =
stand=20
financially. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
31, 2004=20
12:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I've put =
some thought=20
into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected =
centrally,=20
and Sector fees collected by the Sector. The downside to =
this is=20
people will be sending their money all over the place, the =
upside is it=20
keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between central =
and/or the=20
sectors. This might not be the best way though ... any =
other=20
thoughts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>We will =
probably also=20
need fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the =
US, and=20
one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have started =
to put=20
together some registration pages at <A=20
=
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm">h=
ttp://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm</A> if=
=20
you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when =
you=20
submit your registration by e-mail it does not work=20
yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, =
2004=20
10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ=20
!<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>And, how exactly are these fees (both =
general and=20
sector) to be collected?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =20
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Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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