[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Richard Jones
jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 22:43:01 2004
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$65 sounds high to me, since I think many participants will jump on =
the tour as it passes near their home, and jump off after a pleasant, =
but relatively short, drive. A high fee would discourage these drivers' =
participation. Is there any indication of how many folks plan on doing =
more than a short regional leg or two? =20
Re: Greg's question on fee collection -- It seems to me that a single =
low general tour fee ($45 or less) might be adequate to cover all =
organizational expenses (hats, badges, printing), eliminating the need =
for any sector fees. A set amount from the general fund could be =
forwarded to each SC to draw from to cover regional printing expenses. =
If there is a special sector 'event' scheduled which required funds to =
implement, then I could see collecting a small participation fee from =
just the people who want to attend that event at the time the event =
takes place; those that choose not to attend the event wouldn't pay this =
fee. =20
At this point in time, having no input on the number of participants, =
it is difficult to schedule an event. More information is needed to =
come up with a decent proposal. =20
Dick.
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From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Dick
The idea is to keep things simple as this is an all volunteer =
effort. The simplest thing if for JONAT central to collect it's fees, =
and the sectors to collect theirs, so one flat fee I think would be less =
manageable for us volunteers (much better, however, for the =
participants) if we had to dole out money based on requests from the =
Sectors. My own personal opinion is that the Sectors need to collect =
and manage their own finances.
I suppose if we collect $65 for the tour, rather than $45, and send =
the extra $20 to the participants' home sector, this might be workable. =
We need to keep it a fixed amount though to keep it simple. How does =
that sound as an alternative ...
Bob=20
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 5:19 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Bob,
As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping up....What =
is the rationale for doing both central and sector fees? Wouldn't it be =
more manageable to have just one flat fee for participation in the tour, =
which would be the same for everyone, regardless of the number of =
sectors travelled? So what if people travelling multiple sectors get =
more bang for their buck? This would enable all of the money to all be =
funneled into one place (central committee) where it could be managed =
basically by one person. If SC's need funds for approved requests, the =
central committee would then simply disperse the reimbursements from =
this pot and always know exactly where things stand financially. =20
Dick.
Minnesota SC.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with =
Tour fees collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector. =
The downside to this is people will be sending their money all over the =
place, the upside is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing =
between central and/or the sectors. This might not be the best way =
though ... any other thoughts?
We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of =
registration people, one for the US, and one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal =
comments? I have started to put together some registration pages at =
http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you =
want to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit =
your registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
Bob=20
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be =
collected?
Gregory
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>$65 sounds high to me, since I think many =
participants will=20
jump on the tour as it passes near their home, and jump off after a =
pleasant,=20
but relatively short, drive. A high fee would discourage these =
drivers'=20
participation. <FONT color=3D#000080>Is there any indication of =
how many=20
folks plan on doing more than a short regional leg or two? =20
</FONT> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Re: Greg's question on fee collection -- It seems =
to me that=20
a single low general tour fee ($45 or less) might =
be adequate to=20
cover all organizational expenses (hats, badges, printing), =
eliminating the=20
need for any sector fees. A set amount from the general fund =
could be=20
forwarded to each SC to draw from to cover regional=20
printing expenses. If there is a special sector 'event' =
scheduled=20
which required funds to implement, then I could see collecting a =
small=20
participation fee from just the people who want to attend that =
event at=20
the time the event takes place; those that choose not to attend the =
event=20
wouldn't pay this fee. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>At this point in time, having no input =
on the=20
number of participants, it is difficult to schedule an =
event. More=20
information is needed to come up with a decent proposal. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 5:38=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>The idea is to =
keep things=20
simple as this is an all volunteer effort. The simplest thing =
if for=20
JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to collect =
theirs, so=20
one flat fee I think would be less manageable for us volunteers =
(much=20
better, however, for the participants) if we had to dole out money =
based on=20
requests from the Sectors. My own personal opinion is that the =
Sectors=20
need to collect and manage their own finances.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I suppose if we =
collect $65=20
for the tour, rather than $45, and send the extra $20 to the =
participants'=20
home sector, this might be workable. We need to keep it a =
fixed amount=20
though to keep it simple. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004><FONT size=3D2>How does that sound as an =
alternative=20
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN =
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D547472523-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard=20
Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 5:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] How do we =
collect fees=20
?<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As I look at this some more, the question =
keeps popping=20
up....What is the rationale for doing both central and sector =
fees? Wouldn't it be more manageable to have just one =
flat fee=20
for participation in the tour, which would be the same for =
everyone,=20
regardless of the number of </FONT><FONT size=3D2>sectors=20
travelled? So what if people travelling multiple =
sectors get=20
more bang for their buck? This would enable all of the =
money=20
to all be funneled into one place (central committee) where =
it could=20
be managed basically by one person. If SC's need funds for =
approved=20
requests, the central committee would then simply disperse =
the=20
reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly where things =
stand=20
financially. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January =
31, 2004=20
12:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] How do =
we collect=20
fees ?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I've put =
some thought=20
into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected =
centrally,=20
and Sector fees collected by the Sector. The downside to =
this is=20
people will be sending their money all over the place, the =
upside is it=20
keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between central =
and/or the=20
sectors. This might not be the best way though ... any =
other=20
thoughts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>We will =
probably also=20
need fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the =
US, and=20
one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have started =
to put=20
together some registration pages at <A=20
=
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm">h=
ttp://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm</A> if=
=20
you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when =
you=20
submit your registration by e-mail it does not work=20
yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20
class=3D543114718-31012004> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, =
2004=20
10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ=20
!<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>And, how exactly are these fees (both =
general and=20
sector) to be collected?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =20
=20
=20
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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