[Shotimes] "Soul"

[Ron Porter]

I agree, Dave. "Soul" to me is that feeling of "connectedness" with the car.
The first time I drove my buddy's 535i a bunch of years ago, I could tell it
had "soul" after driving a block. BMW carefully engineers the tactile
feeling into their cars. Much of it is subtle, but it is an awareness of
what all systems are doing.

This is the key why many new cars don't have "soul".....too much of the
tactile sensations are engineered out. IMHO, and I know that Don and other
will disagree, but it's my perception.....and perception is reality....but I
didn't feel my '99 had "soul". It had some very good capabilities for
handling, braking, etc, but it just never "talked" to me like my former '89,
my 911, or even the current '95.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:13 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] "Soul"


If this were true, then you'll never be able to jump in a new car and feel
that it has "soul".  Which, is what most of you seem to be saying.

I think you guys are confusing familiarity with soul.  That new pair of
shoes will never have the same "sole" as those old comfy slippers.  HA!

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
To: "George Fourchy" <krazgeo@jps.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: December 05, 2002 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] "Soul"


> George is right.  The crucial element is the driver's feeling that he/she
knows the car, knows what it will do, feels comfortable
> and confident that the car will do what the driver asks.  That rapport can
take time to build.  As Billy Joel said, it's always been
> a matter of trust.  A good car tells you that you can trust it, by
behaving under stress with predictable, acceptable manners.  A
> bad car is any car in which you don't know when you can trust it, or you
know you can't. I can drive my 92 SHO at 120 mph at
> Brainerd and feel confident that it will behave in Turn 1.  When you know
a car will do what you built it to do, that is a rush.
>
> Joseph van Oss
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