[Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)

[Ron Porter]

According to this site, a real Pace Car should have the 2.7 Quad 4:

http://www.indy500.com/press/2001/pacecar-03082001.php3

This site says it was a 215 HP Quad 4, the first Olds Pace Car with a
4-cylinder engine and FWD. It says the engine was modified, and the top
removed.

http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/motor_sports/2000/1/2001_oldsmobile/i
ndex2.phtml7

That car sounds like one of the spin-off Pace Cars that are built with the
trim packages put on standard cars. This site sorta confirms that:
http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/of442.htm  as it says:

"1985 Indy Pace Car
The Pace Car Replica car had special aluminum wheels, spoiler, Calais 500
emblems, and a special silver leather interior. It was otherwise a stock
Calais, with either the Pontiac Iron Duke 151 CID 4 cyl or the optional
Buick V-6 (I think in 3.0 liter size. The Indy Pace Car decals were
optional."

Ron Porter


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bell [mailto:mattbell@everestkc.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:11 AM
To: 'James F. Ryan III'; 'Ron Porter'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)


If an Indy Fiero is worth something, can anyone tell me if a 1985 Olds
Calais 500 Indy Pace car is worth anything? I can't find any real info
on the car other than a few pictures of the real one on the track. I
know where there is a wrecked one that is going to be cheap. It's all
there though. 3.0 V6 in it makes me wonder what the H.P. is.

Blah Blah, I got this, I got that, mod this mod that
Can't put a picture in, blah blah blah.
Matt Bell
1999 SHO Black 34K
1996 Dakota "Sport" 61K
1995 Taurus SE 110K
1992 SHO Silver Frost 138K
1988 Taurus Silver Frost 89K GL
1986 Cavalier CS 50K



-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James F. Ryan III
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:52 PM
To: Ron Porter; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)

> I haven't poked around to see the production numbers for '88, but I
suspect
> there were fewer GTs than Formulas,

Wrong, Ron.  Your '88 GT is rare, but it's not the rarest Fiero.

'88 base coupe -     19,553
'88 GT -                   6,848
'88 Formula -            5,475

'87 Sport Coupe -     3,135    (rare but not desirable)
'84 Indy Pace Car replica - 2,000
        (rare, not a top performer, but commanding $$$$)


> plus GTs were the most expensive and
> most highly optioned Fiero of 1988.

I will agree with you there, Ron.

1988 Fiero base prices

base coupe -        $8,999
GT -                    $10,999
Formula -            $13,999


> As with many cars, the V6 5-speed models
> are commanding more $$$, even today.

I've never found actual MTX and ATX production numbers, but unfotunately
like the Corvette, I think there are many more ATX cars.


> The newest hot tip for Fiero engine swaps seems to be the Northstar.
> Good-looking engine, and nice power.

Hot tip?!?!?  Only if you've got $5000+ burning a hole in your pocket.
Also, the Northstar must be used with its computer-controlled ATX. :^(

The most popular engine swap seems to be the Buick 3800 V-6 - excellent
hp
without the weight penalty of the SBC.  I've even seen some Fiero's with
the
supercharged 3800, but now we're talking bucks again and ATX only.

My '84 SE will soon be getting a 180hp 2.3L Quad-4 HO/Getrag 5-spd to
replace the 92hp 2.5L Iron Duke/TH-125C 3-spd auto.



Jim Ryan - Wayne, NJ
96 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.2L
84 Fiero SE
91 Plus - all white/mocha
FPS 96 brakes, Carbotech pads, LPM and 80mm MAF w/ K&N and SHO Shop can
&
horn, SHO Shop Y-pipe and cat-back w/ Edelbrock mufflers, KONIs with SHO
Shop linear springs, f&r strut tower braces and poly bushings all
around,
HiRevs Jr clutch and lightweight flywheel, underdrive pulleys, torque
limiters, Cincy SHO reinforced engine mounts, Bridgestone Potenza RE730
tires (excellent), and police grille.
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