[Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:40:48 -0500
Well, last night going home from work I really paid attention to
when it made the noise and what I was doing at the time. It does
sometimes do it when turning, but it's pretty quiet. It's very loud
when going straight and shifting gears.
So I guess it could be the strut mount or spring afterall. I suppose
I should never have doubted you guys. : ) I have to do something
with the springs soon here, so I'll find out one way or another.
Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio
-'95 White MTX
'96 Brake Upgrade
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
"Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/12/2003 03:13:56 AM:
> LOL I got pissed off at my Opal and just bought all new Moog front end
> stuff, but then never got to put some of it on. LCA's with ball joints,
> inner and outter tie rod ends, front sway links (got them on the car).
Come
> spring it's new springs and struts, new TPR all around, PC'd subframe,
and
> anything else I might be able to replace in the suspension.
>
> Here is an off the wall thought as to the noise. Engine dampener
failure?
> Don't gas charged thing like that make wier noises when they are toast.
> Under acceleration might make enough noise to reverb into the pass
cabin.
> I'm outta ideas :-)
>
>
> Bruce Malachuk
>
> 94 Opal Frost MTX
>
> 93 Green MTX winter beater
>
> 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
>
> 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:25 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
>
> Yeah, well, I have a clunking too. That's probably the end links. I
added
> that to the ever-growing list. ; )
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> Toledo, Ohio
>
> -'95 White MTX
> '96 Brake Upgrade
>
> Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
>
>
>
>
> "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 02:21:05
PM:
>
> > I had a clunking noise from my front sway link after I got my AL sfb's
> on
> > the car. Turns out the ball was popping outta the socket.
> >
> >
> > Bruce Malachuk
> >
> > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> >
> > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> >
> > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> >
> > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:37 PM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> >
> > I know it's not a broken spring. Among other things, I changed struts
> this
> > summer, so I know they're not. I changed mounts too.
> > With all the height I gained in the front end, I don't think it's the
> strut
> > mounts. Besides, it doesn't do it when turning, just when Starting
> > from
> a
> > dead stop and when shifting gears. It sounds like it's coming from
> > the passenger side. Had that motor mount replaced but that wasn't it.
> > I'll check subframe bolts. The only things I didn't change this
> > summer was
> sway
> > bar end links and bushings. Don't think it could be them though. But
> > maybe.
> >
> >
> > Mike Wojton
> > Toledo, Ohio
> >
> > -'95 White MTX
> > '96 Brake Upgrade
> >
> > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 12/11/2003 12:08:19 PM:
> >
> > > I had a groanimg noise in my 93 when new. There was a TSB the adds a
> > spacer
> > > between the strut tower and strut assy. This eliminated the rubbing
> > > interference and the noise.
> > >
> > > Sometimes the spring will twist and chatter when turning and is
> > sometimes
> > > cured for a while by greasing the spring ends and rubber mates.
> > >
> > > Look for a broken spring.
> > >
> > > John W.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:38 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well I haven't replaced them. I'm trying to track down a horrid
> > > > groaning noise I hear coming from the front end. Just had a motor
> > > > mount replaced and that wasn't it. The subframe was out when the
> > > > clutch was replaced this past summer and I never went back to
> > > > check the torque on the bolts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > >
> > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > >
> > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003
> > > > 11:10:09
> > AM:
> > > >
> > > > > No problem. Hehe but you need some AL SFB's, everyone needs AL
> > > > > SFB's
> > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Make sure that you recheck the TQ on the subframe bolts after
> > driving
> > > > around
> > > > > for a week or so. I have seen instances where stock, delrin, and
> > > > aluminum
> > > > > bushings have the SF bolts loosen up a little after driving
> around.
> > They
> > > > > loosen after settling into place, so about 200 miles is a good
> > number to
> > > > > re-TQ the bolts. Just like lugnuts, which reminds me I gotta
> > > > > re-TQ
> > my
> > > > snow
> > > > > rims
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > > >
> > > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > > >
> > > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:48 AM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > > >
> > > > > No, stock. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > > >
> > > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003
> > 10:44:05
> > > > AM:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yup. Less your doing AL SFB's then I tq them down to 100-110
> > > > > > ft/lb
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the torque spec for the rear subframe bolts? My
> > > > > > service cd only
> > > > > has
> > > > > > the front, at 55-75 ft/lbs. The same?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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