[Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq

Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:51:33 -0600

That is the thing. The inspectors aren't supposed to find ANYTHING. When the
inspectors went to South Africa, that government led them to each and every
place and the inspectors cataloged the stuff. If it was found to be
prohibited, the inspectors oversaw the destruction of it and documented it.

Part of the resolution for Iraq is that they are supposed to 1. Show us what
they have. 2. Show us what happened to the stuff we knew they had (should
still be there or some sort of proof of destruction). 3. Stop trying to get
more stuff.

They are inspectors, not detectives. How would you expect 100 people to find
stuff in a country the size of California, especially when you keep moving
it around?

That is what people don't seem to understand. The inspectors saw WMD in Iraq
from 1991-1998 and destroyed a fair amount of it. The inspectors know how
much they had left over to be destroyed. Iraq is supposed to lead the
inspectors to each place and show what happened to the old stash as well as
any new stuff they've produced.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
To: "SHOtimes (Team.net)" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq

> I agree that there is not much else we can do to stem the tide of
> terroristic activities and unruly regimes without going into Iraq and
making
> a statement, but at the same time I fully realize that this is not even
> remotely going to be Desert Storm 2. Saddam is incredibly better prepared
to
> deal with us compared to round 1. He does not have the conventional
> munitions numbers he had last time, but he still has a large number of
> conventional and chemical weapons (I never understood how the UN
inspectors
> expected to locate weapons that the world, to this day, do not know he
has,
> and they still have not located them), he has much better knowledge of our
> capabilities and strategies, he has modified his bunkers to better protect
> what he plans on using, and he has incited a higher level of morale among
> his troops through ten years of propoganda. We will not get away with less
> than 500 deaths this time.
>
> If Saddam was capable of easily wiping out Israel, he would have done so
> many years ago. He knows they have a good number of nukes and are very
> willing to use them, unlike the US military. The small real-estate known
as
> Israel is not large enough to offset the repercussions he'd receive.
>
> I expect gasoline prices to go up and stay up from here on out, barring
the
> usual oil fluctuations.
>
>
>
> David P
>
> 95MTX
>
>
>
> ~
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
> To: "SHOtimes (Team.net)" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 14:38
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq
>
>
> > If there was a way to deal with the situation there without a war I
would
> > support it. But the facts have shown that the UN is useless and doing
> > anything and that Saddam is still trying to procure weapons. Where he
> might
> > want to use them is anyone guess. I don't want to wake up tomorrow to
find
> > out that the entire Israeli poplation has been wiped out in an attcak.
Or
> > Kuwait is now nothing more than a lifeless desert devoid of any of the
> > populous that once resided there. Or that one of our cities here in the
> > states is showing massive casualties from a chemical, biological, or
> nuclear
> > device being smuggled in by some terrorist organization, that might have
> > gotten thier materials or funding from Iraq.
> >
> > War is never easy, and at first I didn't want it, I was one of the few
> > conservatives that I know of my friends that was actually against it.
But
> as
> > more information came out, and the more I read about the whole thing, I
> > firmly believe that times up, and there isn't another viable way to
> resolve
> > this situation.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>; "SHOtimes (Team.net)"
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq
> >
> >
> > > You make war sound so easy...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David P
> > >
> > > 95MTX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
> > > To: "SHOtimes (Team.net)" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:37
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was just listening to him too, then just turned on Rush Limbaugh,
> who
> > is
> > > > out playing golf, but the guest host said something that rings soooo
> > true.
> > > > If the UN fails to enforce that resolution (1441?) they are in
serious
> > > > danger of becoming an irreveliant body. When we go in, with or
without
> > the
> > > > support of the UN, we are more than justified. Especially since what
> we
> > > saw
> > > > today was only the "declassified" stuff, and everyone knows we're
not
> > > gonna
> > > > tip our complete hand to Saddam. Hopefull we'll get in there soon,
get
> > > this
> > > > thing started and over, so that the benefits start to spur the US
and
> > > world
> > > > economy. Plus I would mind $10 a barrel oil after it is over, just
in
> > time
> > > > for low gas prices for the drive to the convention:-)
> > > >
> > > > Cause everyone knows that as soon as this war is over, Irar will
start
> > > > pumping soooo mush oil that the OPEC will have seriously lower
prices.
> > And
> > > > it won't be the US pumping it but whatever new Iraqi gov't will be
> doing
> > > it.
> > > > I just really hope that we end up with Saddam's head of a stick
before
> > we
> > > > leave.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > > > To: "SHOtimes (Team.net)" <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "V8SHO"
> > > > <v8sho@v8sho.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:11 PM
> > > > Subject: [Shotimes] OT: Case against Iraq
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just got done watching Colin Powell at the UN. I do not see how
> anyone
> > > can
> > > > > interpret any other way that the UN is justified in taking Sadam
> out.
> > If
> > > > the
> > > > > Security Council is too spineless, the US should do it
unilaterally.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul L Fisher
> > > > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 171K Build date
11/18/1992
> > > > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax
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> > > > Holley
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> > Performance-Plus
> > > > > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series
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> > date
> > > > > 11/19/1999
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> > > > >
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