[Shotimes] Re: OT Starting Fluid: Good or Evil?

[Noah South III]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but 14 and 15:1 are VERY VERY VERY VERY
VERY low compression for a diesel engine.  Unless really big diesels are
different than smaller passenger car diesels.  Most diesels that I know of
run around 25:1 compression.

That's really interesting about the ether though.  Do you know how long each
ether charge lasts?  It seems like that would be a really annoying thing to
have to change, but then again that would be much less annoying then having
to wait over a minute to get the glowplugs going every time you want to
start the vehicle.

-Noah South III

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Phillis" <jphillis68@hotmail.com>
To: <jsalaets@msn.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: OT Starting Fluid: Good or Evil?


> "If anything, I would say that starting fluid is NOT a good idea in
diesels,
> but is harmless to gasoline engines."
>
> FYI, I worked for a heavy equip dealer in highschool, and my father still
> works there, not to mention my brother is in the local 66 operating
> engineers union (he runs a 375 CAT excavator right now)
>
> and we are talking big heavy machines, with 14 and 15:1 compression ratios
> not to mention the smaller kabota and yanmar newholland diesels
>
> all of which, of the new ones have a prestart position on the key, which
you
> hold for 15 seconds activates a glow plug, warms up the feul, then when
you
> turn the key to start teh engine, it automatically hits the intake with a
> can of either.
> so when you are cranking, it is already sucking in burning either and
diesel
> fuel.
>
> so, in short, if starting fluid was bad for diesel engines, CAT,
NewHolland,
> Case, John Deere  wouldn't put an either can holding assembly with quick
> change, directly onto the machine, so you can get starting fluid wihtout
> lifting a finger aside from turning the key.
>
>
>
> From: "Josh Salaets" <jsalaets@msn.com>
> To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Shotimes] Re:  OT Starting Fluid: Good or Evil?
> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 15:34:52 -0800
>
>  >>> She has a "mechanic" friend who seems to have her convinced that I
have
> ruined everything and have mucked up the works.  He says I ruined the
plugs
> so I pulled one and it was covered in carbon, which obviously isn't
created
> when starting fluid burns and I wire brushed the plug and it appeared to
be
> in perfect condition.  He also says that starting fluid is only for
> diesels.<<<
>
> Well then this person isn't a "mechanic" at all if he/she thinks starting
> fluid will damage a car!  Starting fluid won't damage anything unless you
> spray a whole can in there and it fills up the combustion chamber.  I've
had
> to use starting fluid on other cars and lawnmowers in the past, and it
> hasn't hurt them one bit!  BTW, did you know that WD-40 is an excellent
> alternative to starting fluid?  This was actually in a Maxim (that
magazine
> is so cool) article awhile back.
>
> If anything, I would say that starting fluid is NOT a good idea in
diesels,
> but is harmless to gasoline engines.
>
> Have you checked to see if it's getting decent spark?
>
> Good luck, and I think you'll have no problem winning this argument! : )
>
> Josh Salaets
> 95 SHO MTX (See it here: www.cardomain.com/id/sh0gun)
> 85 Omni GLH-T (Autocrosser)
> Eugene, OR
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