[Shotimes] Crown Vic problems?

[Ron Porter]

Who ever said the safety Nazis ever used logic? Typical of every liberal
anti-corporate stance.

I would never have an airbag in any car I own, but it's too much of a PITA
to eliminate them now. I just sit way back....which is easy with arms that
wear a 37" sleeve dress shirt!!

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Tatro [mailto:stevetatro_shotimes@att.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:46 PM
To: Ron Porter; 'sho2go'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Crown Vic problems?


Here's another thing that it seems nobody has considered:  What if you line
up a whole fleet of another car, and have cars run into the back of them at
70mph?  Take your pick, Honda, Toyota, Chevy, whatever.  There's a point at
which any car will rupture the tank and the car may catch on fire.

Sure, they could build every car to be virtually indestructible and
death-proof, but the consumer couldn't afford to buy one.

Give and take, I suppose!

Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 167k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'sho2go'" <srfdude@cox.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Crown Vic problems?


> Yes, you are correct.
>
> The safety Nazis expect every car to be perfect when hit from the rear at
70
> mph. As you state, the cars are safe with a 50 mph rear hit, which is WELL
> BEYOND any applicable safety standard.
>
> IMNSHO, it is just another chance for the socialist liberal side to slam
the
> American "military-industrial complex capitalists" who are hell-bent to
> screw over the American worker.
>
> All b**ls**t, as far as I am concerned. I guess no one ever thinks of
> prosecuting the a-holes who slam into the cop cars on the side of the
road.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of sho2go
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:41 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Crown Vic problems?
>
>
> Left wing Democrat senator from NY, Chuck Schumer wants the NTSB to
> investigate the occurence of gas tank fires/explosions when hit from the
> rear,
> regarding the nearly 400,000 CVs in police use across the country.  He
says,
> "We know there's a problem; we just need to figure out how to fix it."  It
> seems there have been 14 fires as a result of rear contact collisions,
> presumably mostly during  freeway stops on the shoulder.  Ford and the
NTSB
> says the car meets the current safety standards, requiring no leaks after
a
> 35
> mph rear collision.  Actually both the car company and the NTSB say the
car
> already meets the proposed 50 mph standards.  Ford came up with a plastic
> shield to cover the tank, and in one case where it had been installed,
after
> a
> high-speed rear ender a CV burned anyway.  Since the average freeway speed
> is
> at least 70 and higher in many places, maybe the cops should consider a
> Bradley fighting vehicle?
> Mike
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