[Shotimes] headers

[Ron Porter]

You've probably already left for the day, but that forecast sounds pretty
good! Cold (like 50 degrees) here, but damp.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pmnimz@v8sho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:57 AM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: Shotimes
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] headers


Looks like the temps will be in the 60s with a 15 mph tail wind.  Baro
should be rising throughout the day.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Paul Nimz'" <pmnimz@v8sho.com>
Cc: "Shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] headers


> I hope you have some cool temps, low humidity and a good barometer.
> Conditions have no been too desirable around here.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:16 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] headers
>
>
> I will find out tomorrow what the 3.99 gears do to my 1/4 times.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'Midwest SHO Specialists'" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "'van Oss'"
> <vanOss@centurytel.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] headers
>
>
> > At the risk of a simplistic answer, any SHO that sees any street duty
has
> > enough power over 6K, and would benefit from more power below 5K.
> > Sacrificing torque under 5K to get more top end is useless and
> > counterproductive......unless you like to only run the car at the Silver
> > State Classic. A fatter midrange would not only make the car feel
quicker,
> > it will also quarter-mile much better.
> >
> > FWIW, after a bunch of research, I put a chip in my 911 whose only
mission
> > in life was to help the torque between 1-4K. The car is a lot more
> > streetable, plus it can run 13.98 at 102 in stock trim even though it's
> > heavier as a cabriolet, with me driving (who is no lightweight), fore a
> car
> > that was only rated mid 14s at best.
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Midwest SHO Specialists
> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:37 PM
> > To: van Oss; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] headers
> >
> >
> > One of the cars we built this winter has headers on it.  It's a 3.2
> > conversion with 3.0 cams and Shawn Paisley's old headers.  The low end
> > torque is noticably low.  From a stop, if you accelerate normally, at
> about
> > 3000 rpms the car feels like you pushed the pedal down further.  It just
> > kind of hops forward.  I have been tinkering with the idea of making
them,
> > but after putting them in, I'm not sure this is something the home
> mechanic
> > can do.  It's a very labor intensive job, and even when you do it right,
> you
> > still have to be a contortionist to get the front header on.
> >
> > The first time you have to remove your oil pan, you will start crying
like
> a
> > child.
> >
> > Definetly something worthwhile, but not sure I would spend $500 or more
on
> a
> > set.
> >
> > The car in question is a road track car, so the headers fit the
> application
> > very well.
> >
> > Mike Kopstain
> > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> > www.MidwestSHO.com
> > Sales@midwestsho.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:56 AM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] headers
> >
> >
> > > IIRC, years ago Ted Breaux had a pair of exhaust headers made, but the
> > > tubing was too large so he ended up removing them.  I remember reading
> > later
> > > on the list, perhaps from Ted, that 1-5/8" ID tubing would be ideal
for
> > > headers on a normally aspirated SHO.
> > >
> > > What's the consensus, do headers make sense on a NA SHO?  Or, looked
at
> > the
> > > other way, what would the price have to get down to for headers to be
a
> > > worthwhile mod?
> > >
> > > Joseph van Oss
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